I firmly believe that is from people who work in food service who understandably have had horrible experiences at work, but who also assume the abuse they’ve received would continue to exist after the revolution. Alternatively it’s also from people who had to deal with abuse, but also aren’t really cut out for food service that unfortunately have been pushed into the roll for various reasons (mainly because capitalism is horrible at allocating people’s skills to jobs they would actually be good at/enjoy)
Yes, hopefully with the capitalist motive removed, the abuse and exploitation will go with it. Or all restaurants become super small worker owned co-ops of people who love cooking, serving, and cleaning. Either way, I think there can be a no exploitative way to serve people food in a social setting.
I’ve had controversial takes about restaurants in the past. Currently I’m in a “restaurants should be more akin to cafeterias” phase, would love to hear criticism of this though. My thinking is that cafeterias are good for workers, it would cut down on food waste (but of course not eliminate it) and be easier on food service workers.
Conquest Of Bread has a section on communal kitchens and it's based as fuck. Not only does it fix restaurants, but also the whole 'cook for two hours to eat in ten minutes' problem
having waiters and servers whose sole job is to take your order and walk from the kitchen to your table so you don't have to move your lazy ass and can roleplay what it is like to have a personal servant is obviously bourgeois bullshit. under communism if you want a beer at a restaurant you'll just walk your ass to the fridge yourself.
i don't fucking get how people can be commies and then not have the slightest bit of creativity to imagine a world that might look and work slightly different from our own.
I think the backlash against restaurants in part comes from Americans (like me) who can clearly see that we have way, way, way too many of them and they're all understaffed. After the revolution there will be like 1/3d the number of restaurants and each one will have twice as many people working at it and that will lead to an improvement in quality for everyone involved.
You are thinking of a canteen/cafeteria (столовая), but yeah they rule. Not terribly expensive even at this time, and should be at every corner of every city.
It takes significantly less labor for chefs at a restaurant to make food for a bunch of people than for each of them to make their own, but yeah a good cafeteria is like the ultimate restaurant.
I think restaurants are good. We should keep them after the revolution.
Wait, why wouldn't we? I can't cook and there's people who love cooking.
I've seen discourse that restaurants are bourgeois and shouldn't exist. I can see it from a COVID standpoint but beyond that I like restaurants.
I firmly believe that is from people who work in food service who understandably have had horrible experiences at work, but who also assume the abuse they’ve received would continue to exist after the revolution. Alternatively it’s also from people who had to deal with abuse, but also aren’t really cut out for food service that unfortunately have been pushed into the roll for various reasons (mainly because capitalism is horrible at allocating people’s skills to jobs they would actually be good at/enjoy)
Yes, hopefully with the capitalist motive removed, the abuse and exploitation will go with it. Or all restaurants become super small worker owned co-ops of people who love cooking, serving, and cleaning. Either way, I think there can be a no exploitative way to serve people food in a social setting.
"people who love serving"
hmmmmmm
Yeah even typing it out felt wrong haha. Maybe like conveyor belt style
I’ve had controversial takes about restaurants in the past. Currently I’m in a “restaurants should be more akin to cafeterias” phase, would love to hear criticism of this though. My thinking is that cafeterias are good for workers, it would cut down on food waste (but of course not eliminate it) and be easier on food service workers.
Conquest Of Bread has a section on communal kitchens and it's based as fuck. Not only does it fix restaurants, but also the whole 'cook for two hours to eat in ten minutes' problem
It would make it easier to compost.
having waiters and servers whose sole job is to take your order and walk from the kitchen to your table so you don't have to move your lazy ass and can roleplay what it is like to have a personal servant is obviously bourgeois bullshit. under communism if you want a beer at a restaurant you'll just walk your ass to the fridge yourself.
i don't fucking get how people can be commies and then not have the slightest bit of creativity to imagine a world that might look and work slightly different from our own.
Sometimes the easiest answer really is the simplest.
I think the backlash against restaurants in part comes from Americans (like me) who can clearly see that we have way, way, way too many of them and they're all understaffed. After the revolution there will be like 1/3d the number of restaurants and each one will have twice as many people working at it and that will lead to an improvement in quality for everyone involved.
It’s more efficient and food can be better if it’s produced at scale.
You are thinking of a canteen/cafeteria (столовая), but yeah they rule. Not terribly expensive even at this time, and should be at every corner of every city.
It takes significantly less labor for chefs at a restaurant to make food for a bunch of people than for each of them to make their own, but yeah a good cafeteria is like the ultimate restaurant.