• YearOfTheCommieDesktop [they/them]
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    10 months ago

    This kind of success story does not exist outside of the west

    This. This is the completely unquestioned propaganda nugget that holds the whole belief system together. Who told you that? Why would you believe that?

    Enormous, and economically successful countries like China, just have no immigrants, no refugees, and no social mobility? (not that the US has a ton, there's a lot of unacknowledged luck involved in this story too)

    This story can absolutely happen in other countries. China even has a higher income mobility than the US. And if you look at the statistics, immigrants are actually disproportionately likely to be pulled down into the cycle of poverty that exists in the US, there's an alternate universe not so different from our own where this dipshit's parents had the resources to leave Iran, eventually landed in the US, and actually experienced downward mobility not upward, and rather than becoming exploiters themselves, hit a speed bump along the way like a serious injury or foreclosure or god knows what else and instead became destitute low-wage workers, who can't afford to live in (most of anyhow) CA, send their kid to law school to do unpaid internships, etc.

    This person really has not considered that they aren't the protagonist of real life and most people's stories don't look like theirs

        • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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          10 months ago

          Aren't Iranian nationals pretty different from Iranian Americans

          Iranian nationals seem pretty chill but Iranian Americans are probably as bad as Cuban Americans. I was just recounting how many American-born Iranian descent bootlickers I know, and then I remembered Jontron exists (aright counts for half I know but yea)

          • AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml
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            10 months ago

            Iranian nationals are different but we still have top tier cringe on the Iranian corner of the internet

    • TrashGoblin [he/him, they/them]
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      10 months ago

      I've heard like a million stories of Middle Eastern medical doctors and professors who had to become cab drivers when they came to the US.

      • MelianPretext [they/them]
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        10 months ago

        The top brass crème of compradors have had that happen to them once they got to the land of milk and honey. The former finance minister of Afghanistan now does Uber driving in DC.

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/03/18/afghanistans-last-finance-minister-now-dc-uber-driver-ponders-what-went-wrong/