• Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    8 months ago

    No. Atoms exchange electrons and change composition all the time. Calling them binary is weird.

    Hydrogen can literally become helium

    • masterblaster420 [none/use name]
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      8 months ago

      from what i read hydrogen requires a star to fuse into helium, so i wouldn't say they change composition "all the time". also, wtf does the 'other' mean in the graph? is it hydrogen or is it helium?

      • ReadFanon [any, any]
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        8 months ago

        But that means that every atom besides hydrogen, at some point, has undergone this process.

        If we disregard the fact that by mass, most of the universe is comprised of gas clouds (since they are kinda in the process of becoming stars) we are left with stars and other bodies such as planets and asteroids and moons. If we take our solar system as the example, over 99% of the mass therein is contained within the sun.

        The conclusion from this is that, although the overall composition of the sun isn't rapidly turning into helium or anything, there's about 600 million tons of hydrogen in the sun undergoing fusion every second, producing nearly that same weight of helium.

        Is that significant in the grand scheme of things when discussing the universe? Absolutely not. But it's still an absolute fuckload of hydrogen changing into helium every moment across the span of the 4.6 billion years of existence of the sun.

        I think as a thought experiment in the immense amounts of helium being produced this is worthwhile to consider. If you would argue that I'm defining away the problem or that I've shifted the goalposts so far as to be discussing something only tangentially related to the first point, I wouldn't disagree with you on that. But for the average person, the quantities of hydrogen becoming helium in our sun alone is absolutely mind-boggling.

        • masterblaster420 [none/use name]
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          8 months ago

          as it relates to the point about binary sex, i guess it's not really a good comparison. or maybe it is. all zygotes begin as females but may switch later, much like hydrogen fusing into helium. so then it is a good analogy. i don't understand why it would be hard to accept that analogy the more i think about it. we are mostly binary, but with a small degree of spectrum. i don't understand how accepting that fact defeats a movement.

    • Taster_Of_Treats [none/use name]
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      8 months ago

      My interpretation is they're saying atoms are binary sarcastically as a way to show how ridiculous it is to say gender is binary.