I step out of Hexbear and into another instance for once and immediately get this shit lmao

I was letting off some steam about how sick and tired I am about working a shit job to make some asshole rich, and I made an off hand remark about how my employer probably belongs in a gulag. Further down the reply chain, this lemmitor asshole shows up to send me a whole tirade full of faux concern, breaking out the psychoanalysis to say I'm just an extremist full of unjustified hatred because I must be a bitter loser. Somehow they come up with this nuclear hot take comparing my anger at the capitalist class to a Christian fundamentalist hating gay people.

But the fucking cherry on the top here is sending me this comment as their very first interaction with me and proceeding to instantly block me to deny me the chance to reply at all. I've seen others use the block feature as a means of getting the last word in, but never to get both the first and last word in at the same time. And in the end, this self-unaware lib ends up calling me the overly self righteous one. Perfect.

Tbh, what gets me is that they were so fucking close to getting it. They almost came to an accurate understanding of the fact that my material conditions as a poor person getting fucked over day in and day out by my employer stealing my labor will heavily inform my politics. But of course they never quite reach that point, instead bizarrely veering off into psychologizing me, and acting like this is all just some sort of character flaw on my part.

Rule one: https://hexbear.net/comment/4738025

  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
    hexbear
    30
    3 months ago

    Isn't it? The instance owner is an "anarchist" and runs a comm for it, as we were all privileged with knowing when they decided to trawl for drama with reactionary bullshit. Perhaps that at least elucidates the main commonality in what we've seen:

    shit-tier geopolitics takes,

    When they were trawling, there was the classic of ultras and liberals arguing side by side repeating the same tired myths and hyperbole.

      • Awoo [she/her]
        hexbear
        24
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        db0 has always had fairly reasonable interactions with people here, and understands the presence of anarchists here.

        Like, I've had PMs with them and while we have ideological differences there's a pretty clear understanding that we're still on the same side even if he doesn't want a state.

        How he lets these ghouls use his instance is beyond me but it could be that it's not really explicitly leftist but simply run by one who isn't ideologically purging libs. This may be a calculation made to not get defederated elsewhere though. Lemmyworld and others would probably call for defed from it for being "tankie", regardless of ideology. They allow their coexistence because they're ideologically non-threatening.

        • @destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml
          hexbear
          16
          3 months ago

          have they ever elaborated on why they defederated from lemmygrad? i still dont understand why someone would defed from one and not the other

          • Awoo [she/her]
            hexbear
            20
            3 months ago

            Being explicitly tankie i presume. While this community is definitely mixed. I think db0 had some serious hangups over some of the "anti imperialist" support for russia that existed there, although I assume that line of thinking has probably changed a bit over time.

            I also think that constant very vocal conversations about "genocide" probably helped cause it. The uighur shit was peaking at the time and a lot of anarchists were struggling with the liberals screaming about it being a real thing vs MLs very vocally and abruptly (and correctly) denying its reality. Anarchists with those hangups who were influenced by that shit have completely changed their tune since Palestine broke out, their expectations of evidence have been forced to change. Everyone understands what an actual genocide produces in way of media now in a country where everyone has smartphones.

            God knows what the taiwan position was vs what it might have morphed into over time. I have a feeling it was probably previously supportive of the liberal position but I'm betting that it has now morphed towards that of "status quo" along with the island's population. Having watched what has happened to the people of Ukraine and what the US is supplying in Palestine it has probably caused a change of heart in terms of what's actually best for the people on that island. The US/Nato position is always the worst possible thing.

            A lot has changed in the left since that defed. I'm willing to bet on many of the things that caused it having gone through a change of heart.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
          hexbear
          14
          3 months ago

          db0 has always had fairly reasonable interactions with people here

          That is just false, do you not remember the saga with them baiting drama over muh tankies and Stalin apparently sending the red army to kill anarchists in Spain?