Lol? This has to be bait and I can't believe I'm gonna take it - but fuck it I've got time.
I prefer America stop waging war all over the world resulting in millions of civilian casualties. Trump is the only President in decades who has delivered on not starting new wars.
I mean, officially sure - but you seem to be forgetting that Trump literally boosted civilian causalities in Afghanistan by like 300% during his time in office and killed 700 Afghan civilians in 2019 with airstrikes alone, which only pales in comparison to the number of Afghan civilian deaths due to coalition airstrikes in 2001.
Does that mean nothing to you? I mean - yeah, Joe Biden has perpetuated the conflict in Gaza and is directly responsible as the figurehead of the US government for its support of Israel's murder of 30k civilians, but he isn't personally signing off on the airstrikes unlike Trump in Afghanistan.
Not to mention the fact that Trump was the first President to use the GBU-43/B MOAB in an Afganistan airstrike - literally the most powerful non-nuclear bomb the US possesses.
If you prefer America stop waging war all over the world and bringing untold horror to the lives of innocent people - maybe don't vote for Trump either??? I mean, I'm certainly not telling you to vote for Biden but it sounds like you've rationalized Trump as some sort of 'salt of the earth populist who says nasty things' rather than what he actually is - a bourgeoisie figurehead war-criminal beholden to their corporate lobbyists and political parties like every other President.
Highly recommend you log off and turn off any televisions or other electronics & go outside and get some sunlight for at least 3 hours - you'll probably realize how dumb your comment is after you've gotten some vitamin d in your system!
and killed 700 Afghan civilians in 2019 with airstrikes alone
A fun fact people here might enjoy… Americans have been deeply propagandized for decades about the Berlin Wall. My niece just entered high school, and in their section on the Cold War, the only thing they learned about the GDR was “Berlin Wall scary and bad”.
700 civilian deaths from air strikes in Afghanistan in a single year is precisely five times as many people who were killed climbing the wall in total in the four decades of its existence.
Bait. The idea that Trump is a dove candidate is just ignoring how much he expanded military operations and drone killings worldwide. He was just politically savvy enough to understand that you just have to be quiet about it, and then voters will just give you a pass. The Dems are also bloodthirsty, but just dumb enough to do it out in the open during an election year for a cause that is unpopular.
Technically Biden hasn't started any wars, and actually ended one. That doesn't make him any less or more of a dove candidate than Trump, those decisions are generally not made by the president, but rubber-stamped afterwards. You're a moron if you think voting for the president actually affects the foreign policy agenda in a way that benefits anyone outside the MIC.
Listen moron, the U.S. is in something around the lines of 45 undeclared conflicts. They don't have to declare war for us to be at war. Trump didn't declare war when he did drone strikes in Syria, despite that being an act of war. It is unlikely that Biden will ever declare war even if we expand our theatres of conflict. We literally have boots on the ground acting in Gaza right now, and it hasn't been declared 'a war'. Stop pretending you live in a democracy, it's embarrassing.
yea you're a fucking moron who thinks the right wing of the bourgeoisie is gonna help you any more than the left wing does. Let's just forget how rabid the Republicans are for war with China and Iran b/c you think your big wet boy isn't a sociopath, just like the blueMAGAs think about theirs
Trump only did these things because he's incredibly incompetent and even then he still managed to put us at the brink of nuclear conflict several times. Biden sucks ass and balls and does not deserve a vote, but that does not make trump good by any stretch.
By voting for him you endorse his actions. If you endorse trump, you're an idiot
Iran has nukes. Trump bonked their guy and the only reason things didn't escalate is because Iran isn't as psychotic.
Before meeting with and changing his mind (like so many times before) he was discussing nuking the DPRK, not to mention how he escalated tensions.
The trade war with China certainly didn't make things less tense.
He's incompetent and a buffoon and that's a good thing because he's also a wannabe imperialist, he just lacks patience to do anything. He still almost succeeded in installing as an "interim" puppet in Venezuela.
Is biden just as bad or worse? Yeah I think so, but that doesn't suddenly make trump any less demented.
I don't believe there was a chance at all of Guaido ever becoming official president. All that really happened were a bunch of western countries started saying he was the real president. when that didn't work the US sent mercenaries that promptly fucked up and got caught by Venezuelan fisherman because at this point I think the South America division of American intelligence is high on their own supply. They think the people of South America want imperialist installed dictators and will revolt once prompted. Turns out the Venezuelan people aren't morons
Yeah I agree with your assessment for the most part. Where I disagree is on the mercs. The reason they only made a half-hearted attempt was because Trump had lost interest.
absolute freaks of mercs they were too. Going ahead with the mission without getting paid. Just in it for the love of the game.
Mercs in the middle ages would burn down Rome if they didn't get paid. These guys tried the mission anyway, failed, six of got shot to death, and the rest ended up in Venezuelan jail.
Lol, there is no political schism you dumb fuck. There is a rhetorical and presentation schism, but the Trump admin looked like your bog-standard Republican admin, just abit more dysfunctional internally, no matter how hysterical the Democrats were about it.
Right but Trump would give them 2000 2000 pound bombs and like 50 F-35s.
We have to vote in November.
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if you vote for trump you're a fucking moron, thanks
Thats why im voting for Hillary Clinton
Its her turn
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Lol? This has to be bait and I can't believe I'm gonna take it - but fuck it I've got time.
I mean, officially sure - but you seem to be forgetting that Trump literally boosted civilian causalities in Afghanistan by like 300% during his time in office and killed 700 Afghan civilians in 2019 with airstrikes alone, which only pales in comparison to the number of Afghan civilian deaths due to coalition airstrikes in 2001.
What about Iraq & Syria? Airwars lists over 13k alleged civilian deaths during Trump's term in office from US & coalition airstrikes.
Does that mean nothing to you? I mean - yeah, Joe Biden has perpetuated the conflict in Gaza and is directly responsible as the figurehead of the US government for its support of Israel's murder of 30k civilians, but he isn't personally signing off on the airstrikes unlike Trump in Afghanistan.
Not to mention the fact that Trump was the first President to use the GBU-43/B MOAB in an Afganistan airstrike - literally the most powerful non-nuclear bomb the US possesses.
I haven't even mentioned Yemen (86 civilians were killed in Trump authorized airstrikes/raids there between 2017-2018)
If you prefer America stop waging war all over the world and bringing untold horror to the lives of innocent people - maybe don't vote for Trump either??? I mean, I'm certainly not telling you to vote for Biden but it sounds like you've rationalized Trump as some sort of 'salt of the earth populist who says nasty things' rather than what he actually is - a bourgeoisie figurehead war-criminal beholden to their corporate lobbyists and political parties like every other President.
Highly recommend you log off and turn off any televisions or other electronics & go outside and get some sunlight for at least 3 hours - you'll probably realize how dumb your comment is after you've gotten some vitamin d in your system!
A fun fact people here might enjoy… Americans have been deeply propagandized for decades about the Berlin Wall. My niece just entered high school, and in their section on the Cold War, the only thing they learned about the GDR was “Berlin Wall scary and bad”.
700 civilian deaths from air strikes in Afghanistan in a single year is precisely five times as many people who were killed climbing the wall in total in the four decades of its existence.
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Did you even read what I said?
Yes that's literally the only thing that matters. The real politics understander has graced us with their presence, folks.
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Brother, Trump put the entire world at risk of a huge war when he decided to kill Soleimani because reasons, tf are you talking about?
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None but you have to thank the iranians for that one, it was them who decided not to blast gringos left and right.
Fucks sake he even expanded Obama's drone strike campaigns.
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Oh so you're stupid stupid.
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Bait. The idea that Trump is a dove candidate is just ignoring how much he expanded military operations and drone killings worldwide. He was just politically savvy enough to understand that you just have to be quiet about it, and then voters will just give you a pass. The Dems are also bloodthirsty, but just dumb enough to do it out in the open during an election year for a cause that is unpopular.
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Technically Biden hasn't started any wars, and actually ended one. That doesn't make him any less or more of a dove candidate than Trump, those decisions are generally not made by the president, but rubber-stamped afterwards. You're a moron if you think voting for the president actually affects the foreign policy agenda in a way that benefits anyone outside the MIC.
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Listen moron, the U.S. is in something around the lines of 45 undeclared conflicts. They don't have to declare war for us to be at war. Trump didn't declare war when he did drone strikes in Syria, despite that being an act of war. It is unlikely that Biden will ever declare war even if we expand our theatres of conflict. We literally have boots on the ground acting in Gaza right now, and it hasn't been declared 'a war'. Stop pretending you live in a democracy, it's embarrassing.
yea you're a fucking moron who thinks the right wing of the bourgeoisie is gonna help you any more than the left wing does. Let's just forget how rabid the Republicans are for war with China and Iran b/c you think your big wet boy isn't a sociopath, just like the blueMAGAs think about theirs
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By voting for him you endorse his actions. If you endorse trump, you're an idiot
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Iran has nukes. Trump bonked their guy and the only reason things didn't escalate is because Iran isn't as psychotic.
Before meeting with
and changing his mind (like so many times before) he was discussing nuking the DPRK, not to mention how he escalated tensions.
The trade war with China certainly didn't make things less tense.
He's incompetent and a buffoon and that's a good thing because he's also a wannabe imperialist, he just lacks patience to do anything. He still almost succeeded in installing
as an "interim" puppet in Venezuela.
Is biden just as bad or worse? Yeah I think so, but that doesn't suddenly make trump any less demented.
I don't believe there was a chance at all of Guaido ever becoming official president. All that really happened were a bunch of western countries started saying he was the real president. when that didn't work the US sent mercenaries that promptly fucked up and got caught by Venezuelan fisherman because at this point I think the South America division of American intelligence is high on their own supply. They think the people of South America want imperialist installed dictators and will revolt once prompted. Turns out the Venezuelan people aren't morons
Yeah I agree with your assessment for the most part. Where I disagree is on the mercs. The reason they only made a half-hearted attempt was because Trump had lost interest.
absolute freaks of mercs they were too. Going ahead with the mission without getting paid. Just in it for the love of the game.
Mercs in the middle ages would burn down Rome if they didn't get paid. These guys tried the mission anyway, failed, six of got shot to death, and the rest ended up in Venezuelan jail.
Pissing themselves on the pavement as well lol, the leader holding what was basically an I.O.U from some Trump ghoul. Funniest day in a while
And what party was in charge that started the wars in the Middle East?
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Lol, there is no political schism you dumb fuck. There is a rhetorical and presentation schism, but the Trump admin looked like your bog-standard Republican admin, just abit more dysfunctional internally, no matter how hysterical the Democrats were about it.
Same for this Kennedy
Rfk is as shitty as trump or biden, but you do you sweaty
Yeah that's what I'm saying. All 3 are as shit as the other
Oh I thought you were saying you'd vote for him like the other guy was saying, my b
That's fucking stupid
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LMAO, love how federation now brings us chuds who think we're libs to go with all the libs who think we're chuds