Took me a bit and I am a little drunk but here are the totals. We had a good showing.

Note: some comments got cut out because the server doesn't like displaying more than 300 from what I can tell. I did my best with what it would show, I just sorted them by new. This should be fairly representative of the currently active userbase. As an aside, I believe we did a similar survey a looong time ago, and we had only 33% of the active userbase as trans.


Random thoughts:

A lot of people were very very cute and confused and essentially asked me to decide their gender for them. Eggs? Probably. This isn't Harry Potter and I'm not a hat so I just went with what they were sounding more convinced of.

A lot of people are even cuter and don't understand how to follow instructions, though some of this is my fault. Made this a little harder to organize.

Some people were not cis and did not identify with the words 'transgender' or 'gender diverse'. If I ever do a trans/adjacent survey again, I think I will ask 'Are you cis?'

I may do a survey for queer people overall eventually, and the question will be 'Are you cishet?'

I would love to do more scientific, inclusive polling and have better and more questions and options, but we need some good secure polling tech for that, which we don't have. So I just have to ask simple questions and get a handful of answers.

Next time I will look into how feasible it is to post a couple of comments and get responders to upvote certain ones. This might fix the issue of the display of comments being limited.

Since some people have two sets of pronouns, both of their pronouns are included separately.

Since the poll was public, some marginalized groups probably shied away from answering. If we ever get a secure way to poll people, we would get more realistic estimates of the trans and cis women userbase.


#Tallies

Yes: 121 
No: 137
Maybe: 37 
Total: 295

If you think something is fucked, you can do it yourself, the thread is public. Hope you like pie! shrug-outta-hecks

  • glans [it/its]
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    edit-2
    3 months ago

    I had an n of 346.

    included and excluded
    • included: only where the first word was "yes","no","maybe"
    • had intended to be case insensitive but realized after everything was done that I accidentally excluded 2 people who answered in all caps
    • below in method, this is fixed so if you follow it you will get slight variation
    • included: first listed pronoun only (otherwise too complicated)
      • eg: [he/him, comrade/them] = he, [she/her, they/them] = she
      • in Methods spoiler it includes a way to get all 4 if you want but it would need to be cleaned up
    • excluded: text in spoilers (too complicated)
    • excluded: accounts not on hexbear.net (no pronouns)
    • excluded: deleted replies

    method
    • opened the thread and scrolled to the end, I think maybe selecting "chat" button at the top lets you get more responses? Also I tried sorting a couple different ways and copying everything as later it is deduplicated
    • note: am using firefox on linux with extensions that might affect the results; I didn't think to disable or anything at the beginning but I would if I were to repeat
    • selected all responses and copy to clipboard
    • go to https://regex101.com/
    • paste in the Test string text box
    • on left sidebar select Function > List
    • in the Regular expression field (above Test string), paste: /^(\w+) \[(\w+).*\](.*\n.*\n+)(no|yes|maybe)/gim
    • in the List field, (below Test string), paste $1;$2;$4;\n
    • here I used ; (semi colon) as column delimiter (used semicolon instead of , (comma) for compatibility when scraping all 4 pronouns)

    expected output is like this:

    useruseruser1;he;Yes;
    useruseruser2;he;No;
    useruseruser3;he;no;
    useruseruser4;she;Yes;
    useruseruser5;he;No;
    
    • copy and paste the contents of List text box into a text file results.csv and save

    Set up spreadsheet

    • use a regular text editor (like notepad.exe on windows) to create a plain text file called template.csv
    • paste the following:
    "number","UID","pron","ans","concat","pron count","pron count %","ans count","ans count %","cat count","cat count %","keep","n"
    "=RANDBETWEEN.NV(10000,99999)",,,,"=CONCAT(C2,""-"",D2)","=COUNTIF(C:C,C2)","=ROUND(F2/$M2,3)*100","=COUNTIF(D:D,D2)","=ROUND(H2/$M2,3)*100","=COUNTIF(E:E,E2)","=ROUND(J2/$M2,3)*100",1,"=COUNTIF(L:L,1)"
    
    • Launch LibreOffice Calc (open source Excel)
    • File > Open and select template.csv It should open the text import dialogue. Important settings:
      • Separated by: comma (uncheck the others)
      • String delimiter: " (double quotation marks)
      • Other options: CHECK Evaluate formulas
    • This should give you a 2 row spreadsheet
    • You might want to use File > Save As to save it as ODS format which allows more features compared to csv. I name this file combined.ods.

    Open results

    • File > Open and select results.csv. It should open the text import dialogue. Important settings:
      • Separated by: semicolon (uncheck the others) note this is different than the previous step!!
    • You should get a new spreadsheet document with 3 colulmns:
      • Column A: usernames
      • Column B: Pronouns
      • Column C: Response (Yes/No/Maybe)
    • Drag to select all the text
    • Copy to clipboard
    • Close this file (once the next part works)

    Put results in template

    • Go back to your other file, combined.ods
    • Select all content of row 2
    • drag to fill down several hundred rows (however many results you have)
    • Place cursor in cell B2 (blank under column heading UID
    • Paste clipboard
    • You should get 300something rows inserted to columns B, C, D
    • You must delete the extra template rows (otherwise your n will be wrong)
    • You must manually edit the column called n (the last column, actually it is column number M) so that each value is 1. by default it will start to count so the values will because 1, 2, 3 etc. Should be 1,1,1.
      • This column controls whether the row is included in the data. If you set the value for 0 it will be excluded. So you can keep data you want to exclude in the sheet.

    Now you must know how to use a spreadsheet. I suggest fixing all the answers to be the same case otherwise Yes and yes might be different in some circumstances.

    Briefly the columns are: -A: number: assigns a random number so the file can be shared without publishing usernames - anonymizes data but lets you keep a record of how you got the results. How to:

    • open a copy of file
    • delete the column UID
    • sort by column number (otherwise results will still be in the order as on the page and it might be possible to infer information)
    • I didn't include it in the template but I actually also checked there were not any duplicate numbers also; you should do this
    • B: UID: user name
    • C: pron: first pronoun
    • D: ans: the answer provided -E: concat: combines columns C and D. Expected output like she-Yes. This is respresented in "Pronoun answer combinations" -F: pron count, H: ans count, J: cat count: absolute number of each -G: pron count %, I: ans count %, K: cat count %: the count value of each as a % of *n* -L: keep: whether to include this line (explained elsewhere) -M: n`: total number of included rows

    method variation: to capture all 4 pronouns

    as above except:

    • in the Regular expression field (above Test string), paste: /^(\w+) \[(.*)\](.*\n.*\n+)(no|yes|maybe|deleted)/gim

    expected output is like this:

    useruseruser1;he/him, they/them;Yes;
    useruseruser2;he/him;No;
    useruseruser3;he/him, des/pair;no;
    useruseruse4r;she/her;Yes;
    useruseruser5;he/him;No;
    

    subsequent instructions such as the spreadsheet may need adjustment



    RESULTS

    For some reason the markdown tables are black text on black text dark grey background on my computer. I can't seem to fix that it's a problem with the website theme. Idk I'm tired of this by now.


    table: total answer %
    ans count % ans
    46.8% No
    43.9% Yes
    9.2% Maybe
    csv: total answer %
    percent,answer
    46.8%,No
    43.9%,Yes
    9.2%,Maybe
    
    table: Pronoun answer combinations %
    percent pronoun answer
    35.8% he No
    25.1% she Yes
    7.5% they Yes
    4.3% comrade No
    3.5% none No
    3.2% he Maybe
    3.2% any Maybe
    2.9% comrade Yes
    2.6% he Yes
    2.3% any Yes
    1.7% any No
    0.9% they No
    0.9% it Yes
    0.9% fae Yes
    0.6% they Maybe
    0.6% she No
    0.6% she Maybe
    0.6% none Yes
    0.6% comrade Maybe
    0.3% ze Yes
    0.3% xey Yes
    0.3% undecided Maybe
    0.3% none Maybe
    0.3% love Yes
    0.3% fae Maybe
    0.3% e Yes
    0.3% e Maybe
    csv: Pronoun answer combinations %
    percent,pronoun,answer
    35.8%,he,No
    25.1%,she,Yes
    7.5%,they,Yes
    4.3%,comrade,No
    3.5%,none,No
    3.2%,he,Maybe
    3.2%,any,Maybe
    2.9%,comrade,Yes
    2.6%,he,Yes
    2.3%,any,Yes
    1.7%,any,No
    0.9%,they,No
    0.9%,it,Yes
    0.9%,fae,Yes
    0.6%,they,Maybe
    0.6%,she,No
    0.6%,she,Maybe
    0.6%,none,Yes
    0.6%,comrade,Maybe
    0.3%,ze,Yes
    0.3%,xey,Yes
    0.3%,undecided,Maybe
    0.3%,none,Maybe
    0.3%,love,Yes
    0.3%,fae,Maybe
    0.3%,e,Yes
    0.3%,e,Maybe
    
    table: Pronoun answer %
    pron count % pron
    41.6% he
    26.3% she
    9% they
    7.8% comrade
    7.2% any
    4.3% none
    1.2% fae
    0.9% it
    0.6% e
    0.3% ze
    0.3% xey
    0.3% undecided
    0.3% love
    csv: Pronoun answer %
    percent,pronoun
    41.6%,he
    26.3%,she
    9%,they
    7.8%,comrade
    7.2%,any
    4.3%,none
    1.2%,fae
    0.9%,it
    0.6%,e
    0.3%,ze
    0.3%,xey
    0.3%,undecided
    0.3%,love