The death penalty is bad when wielded by bad people for bad reasons, and good when wielded by good people for good reasons. Materialism ain't that complicated, Dakota.
Any action that results in taking a life is a tragedy. That it is necessary for people to be killed during a war in order to prevent the slaughter of innocent people is ludicrously stupid in an age where there are enough resources to support the world's population. Executions during an ongoing revolution fall into a gray area that may qualify as self defense, as letting the person live may result in the deaths of more people.
So if a billionaire is stripped of and isolated from their resources, and sent to be re-educated, they will still lead to more death and misery? There is no possible path to becoming a functioning member of society?
Generally agree when it’s in peace time. But defrauding workers like this? Very few countries in this world ever punish these people, and even in the socialist ones, the rich enjoy immense privilege. The death penalty may not deter an average guy from committing heinous crimes because he has no expectation of decency from his society. But it does put the fear of god into the people who think they’re untouchable. Now, for Vietnam to weed out its corruption from the top so shit like this needs to happen less.
Disagre, there's no such thing as a good death penalty presided over by good people, it's too risky, too high a chance for a mistake even in the best system
Unless it's a billionaire, then there can't be a mistake
The death penalty is bad when wielded by bad people for bad reasons, and good when wielded by good people for good reasons. Materialism ain't that complicated, Dakota.
My personal belief is that it is always bad.
My personal favorite Che quotation
Well Che was leading an armed revolution. This is a trial in an established state.
So there are situations in which it’s not bad, but necessary?
Any action that results in taking a life is a tragedy. That it is necessary for people to be killed during a war in order to prevent the slaughter of innocent people is ludicrously stupid in an age where there are enough resources to support the world's population. Executions during an ongoing revolution fall into a gray area that may qualify as self defense, as letting the person live may result in the deaths of more people.
Letting any billionaire live inevitably results in more death and misery. When does the state of war/revolution end?
So if a billionaire is stripped of and isolated from their resources, and sent to be re-educated, they will still lead to more death and misery? There is no possible path to becoming a functioning member of society?
Generally agree when it’s in peace time. But defrauding workers like this? Very few countries in this world ever punish these people, and even in the socialist ones, the rich enjoy immense privilege. The death penalty may not deter an average guy from committing heinous crimes because he has no expectation of decency from his society. But it does put the fear of god into the people who think they’re untouchable. Now, for Vietnam to weed out its corruption from the top so shit like this needs to happen less.
Disagre, there's no such thing as a good death penalty presided over by good people, it's too risky, too high a chance for a mistake even in the best system
Unless it's a billionaire, then there can't be a mistake