I recently learned that having a moustage was a beauty ideal for iranian women in the 19th century. It is of course not in modern times, but maybe that context can help? There were also some nonbinary identities, but i forgot the name.
huh, that's pretty cool! unfortunately, the issue is largely (1) the beard makes me feel icky, which I'm trying to learn to ignore, and (2) people in western society instantly lose any perception of androgyny or femininity when facial hair is involved.
There's a difference between the vallus hair on a cis woman's face, and the courser terminal hairs that are grown after a testosterone induced puberty.
Sorry, this is a pet peve, when a cis woman friend pulls out the 'I have hairy legs! / I have hair on my face!', honey, its different, i have infact been upclose ans personal with women.
my protip for youse is shave in the shower and try avoid mirrors ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (doesnt help the sensory issues, i just let it grow out a little so its softer tbh)
Cis women are not somehow immune to having terminal hair on their face, plenty of them do.
Taking estrogen also tends to soften out and slow hair growth as well as making it less dense. Anecdotally my wife had some light chest hair that near enough quit growing. YMMV of course.
When a cis woman friend "pulls out" those statements, the point is that body hair should not be associated as a masculine trait somehow, because that's silly.
I recently learned that having a moustage was a beauty ideal for iranian women in the 19th century. It is of course not in modern times, but maybe that context can help? There were also some nonbinary identities, but i forgot the name.
huh, that's pretty cool! unfortunately, the issue is largely (1) the beard makes me feel icky, which I'm trying to learn to ignore, and (2) people in western society instantly lose any perception of androgyny or femininity when facial hair is involved.
There's a difference between the vallus hair on a cis woman's face, and the courser terminal hairs that are grown after a testosterone induced puberty.
Sorry, this is a pet peve, when a cis woman friend pulls out the 'I have hairy legs! / I have hair on my face!', honey, its different, i have infact been upclose ans personal with women.
my protip for youse is shave in the shower and try avoid mirrors ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (doesnt help the sensory issues, i just let it grow out a little so its softer tbh)
Cis women are not somehow immune to having terminal hair on their face, plenty of them do.
Taking estrogen also tends to soften out and slow hair growth as well as making it less dense. Anecdotally my wife had some light chest hair that near enough quit growing. YMMV of course.
When a cis woman friend "pulls out" those statements, the point is that body hair should not be associated as a masculine trait somehow, because that's silly.