• FourteenEyes [he/him]
    hexbear
    20
    1 month ago

    German if we're getting pedantic, there's obviously no relation except for moral integrity

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
      hexbear
      29
      1 month ago

      The thing about a lot of non-Hebrew Jewish names is that they linguistically come from the German language, but are connected, down to their origin point, with Germanophone Jews in Germany, Austria, etc., whether it be a toponym of a medieval town or an early modern ornamental name. "Epstein" is an example of the former, it seems. So the pedantic characterization is also that it's a Jewish name and I reiterate that we should not be connecting every instance of this name which is probably like 900 years old to a particular sex offender.

      • Awoo [she/her]
        hexbear
        17
        1 month ago

        Isn't this a little like seeing the second name Bond and connecting that with 007?

        It will take 2 generations before most people don't see the connection anymore.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
          hexbear
          10
          1 month ago

          Associating a millennium-old Jewish name with pedophilia because of one dude is bad, actually

          • Awoo [she/her]
            hexbear
            2
            1 month ago

            I get where you're coming from but again, I don't think i'm ever going to see the name Epstein without that association coming to mind. Removing it from our minds is not a conscious action.

            People can choose not to post it but everyone's gonna think it and someone that hasn't heard this is gonna haha-reference it every time.

          • Awoo [she/her]
            hexbear
            2
            1 month ago

            I wasn't arguing in favour of it, merely the point that it's never going to be stoppable.

      • FourteenEyes [he/him]
        hexbear
        1
        1 month ago

        Wasn't aware that it was in fact Jewish and not just associated with them, probably for the best it was removed