• DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    23 days ago

    It’s settled, after the revolution we need to make a reverse Haye’s code where the main rule is that the villains cannot be too cool, too sexy, or whatever.

    I think a good 30% of CHUDs under 45 are CHUDS because they want to emulate the cool supervillains from media.

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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      23 days ago

      I'm on board but if your take from starship troopers is the villains (bug aliens) are too sexy let's get into that please

    • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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      23 days ago

      The thing about Falling Down, the villain isn't cool, his a divorced loser who lives with his mom.

      I think a good 30% of CHUDs under 45 are CHUDS because they want to emulate the cool supervillains from media.

      Nah it's settler brain. Blaming in on media is missing the forest through the trees.

      • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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        23 days ago

        FWIW, those institutions are still super important for setting the culture if I understand my gramsci correctly.

        • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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          23 days ago

          Yeah but, and I don't have anything to back this up besides vibes, I kinda suspect the nerds to post about how much they like Fight Club and Joker mostly just edgelord post online. The actual MAGA dudes who go and do shit outside, regardless of how embarrassing it is, are probably more brain-poised on like Call of Duty and those bad direct to TV Steven Seagal films, Joker would be too artsy for them.

          Really though I think its mostly their suburban, white bread, driving the Silverado to Buffalo Wild Wings every Friday while pretending to be an independent frontiersman lifestyle that rots their brain. I mean, the media they consume is part of that but it's just one ingredient in the brain-worm soup, removing it and it alone wouldn't do shit. Also you know plenty of socialists watched Fight Club and Joker and played too much COD but ended up where we are now, I know I fucking did.

          In think most of the people on this site are themselves media fixated nerds (including myself) and so tend to ascribe to media way more power than it has. It's a piece of the puzzle but I don't think its a particularly big one, at least not when taken with everything else.

          • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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            23 days ago

            It's definitely the loudest piece of the puzzle but I agree that it's not the largest.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      23 days ago

      In the future all film makers will study Mel Brooks and Charlie Chaplin's depictions of Nazis before they're allowed to touch fascism.

    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      23 days ago

      It’s settled, after the revolution we need to make a reverse Haye’s code where the main rule is that the villains cannot be too cool, too sexy, or whatever.

      I've said it before and I'll say it again: writers need to beat the audience over and about the head with the point they want to make to the point of having a character and/or the narrator literally just straight up tell the audience the point several times, and only after that are they allowed to engage in allegory of any sort of even slightly ambiguous characterization.