Putin goes on to say

”Our proposal is not to freeze the conflict, like how the west wants it, but to end it. I repeat, this is not to freeze the conflict, but for its final completion.”

  • Kuori [she/her]
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    4 months ago

    if i point a gun at your head and you attack me, who is the aggressor?

      • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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        4 months ago

        Good to know the Eastern Ukrainians getting shelled in their homes for almost a full decade are imaginary

        Boy, would my face have been red if I had been supporting Nazis carrying out an ethnic cleansing in those regions

        Glad it was just Kremlin propaganda and epic smol bean Ukraine isn't a reactionary shithole throwing an entire generation into a meat grinder war for no good reason

        • CasualPenguin@reddthat.com
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          4 months ago

          That is a whole different topic than the thread you're replying to which is about Russia starting this invasion as the aggressors.

          If you want to discuss the conflict in eastern Ukraine, we can, but don't start by getting snarky about some imagined argument that exists only in your mind.

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          • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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            4 months ago

            It is absolutely not a "whole different topic". Why are you liberals so afraid of historical context?

            Oh that's right, because it demolishes your delusional view of the world.

          • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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            4 months ago

            But the conflict in Eastern Ukraine is one of the main inciting incidents of the war.

            This is like saying we can't bring up the Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand in a discussion or why Austria-Hungry invaded Serbia.

      • Mog_Pharou [he/him]
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        4 months ago

        There's nothing imaginary about a hostile nuclear power on your border. That is a gun to your head. The US did not allow it in Cuba. Russia will not allow it in Ukraine.

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