old trek was actually more political, in that it showed different ideologies crashing into each other, "geopolitical" maneuvering between empires, explored ideas like colonialism, etc.
and I'm saying this chud and his friends are exactly the intended audience of nu-trek. It's dumbed down and turned into laser shows for consooooomers who want to "turn off their brains and nerd out" and "hate politics". It's funny they complain about nu-trek when it's literally them who caused this
Only the live-action modern Trek. Lower Decks easily competes with DS9 and TNG for quality. Different tone certainly. But it's its own distinct thing. TNG was renowned for its ethics and morality plays. DS9 was about the challenges of being on the frontier. I think LD's distinctive feature will end up being a faith that we can be better than we are, despite what we've done and what we've seen.
I dunno how it escaped me up until now...I'm gonna look into it to get excited. my wife has the tv rn or i world already have found it on the ol Grand line.
It's possibly the best Trek series out of the recent releases, Prodigy while being made for kids is also a lot of fun and was picked up for a second season that just came out on Netflix.
it's pretty ok actually, it's about on the same level to me as TOS. I actually like how they do stuff like imitate Desilu studio close-ups and lighting arrangements. Makes it feel like what if TOS were a modern show
I grew up on TOS (reruns, I'm not ancient) and I also get very similar vibes from Strange New Worlds. I don’t even care if it's not particularly edgy or insightful. It's like comfort food and I'm eating it up.
It's okay but i stopped watching in the first season. My main impressions were "well at least it feels like star trek again" but most of the stories were kinda meh and one of the better ones they just ripped from The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas (but iirc libbed up because did they even do anything? Did they just leave that kid in the torment nexus because uhh noninterventionism? I don't remember but thought it was weak shit)
and i cannot stress enough how much I do not ever need to see another "it's a submarine battle.... in SPACE!!" episode of Star Trek, christ, it's the episode that never ends
Did they just leave that kid in the torment nexus because uhh noninterventionism?
I love how Captain Freeman in Lower Decks (I think S2E1) talks about how she's annoyed by Starfleet's "policy of some intervention". Humanizes her while also calling out some prior Trek writers' occasional inadvertant-cruelty moments.
modern star trek sucks absolute ass though but not for the reasons this guy hates it
old trek was actually more political, in that it showed different ideologies crashing into each other, "geopolitical" maneuvering between empires, explored ideas like colonialism, etc.
new trek is literally just shiny laser go brrr
Yea i'm just saying new trek sucks
and I'm saying this chud and his friends are exactly the intended audience of nu-trek. It's dumbed down and turned into laser shows for consooooomers who want to "turn off their brains and nerd out" and "hate politics". It's funny they complain about nu-trek when it's literally them who caused this
But the main character of Discovery has very political skin and gender. And the homosexuals!
I propose the term "astropolitics"
Only the live-action modern Trek. Lower Decks easily competes with DS9 and TNG for quality. Different tone certainly. But it's its own distinct thing. TNG was renowned for its ethics and morality plays. DS9 was about the challenges of being on the frontier. I think LD's distinctive feature will end up being a faith that we can be better than we are, despite what we've done and what we've seen.
Wait, animated ✅ Star Trek ✅whose quality rivals my two favorite iterations of Star Trek✅? Give it. I need it right now
Oh my goodness, I envy you if you've never seen Lower Decks, because I'd love to see it again for the first time.
I dunno how it escaped me up until now...I'm gonna look into it to get excited. my wife has the tv rn or i world already have found it on the ol Grand line.
It's possibly the best Trek series out of the recent releases, Prodigy while being made for kids is also a lot of fun and was picked up for a second season that just came out on Netflix.
Moopsy!
Lower Decks is my favorite Star Trek series and Beckett Mariner is my favorite Starfleet officer
I like strange new worlds
it's pretty ok actually, it's about on the same level to me as TOS. I actually like how they do stuff like imitate Desilu studio close-ups and lighting arrangements. Makes it feel like what if TOS were a modern show
I grew up on TOS (reruns, I'm not ancient) and I also get very similar vibes from Strange New Worlds. I don’t even care if it's not particularly edgy or insightful. It's like comfort food and I'm eating it up.
It's okay but i stopped watching in the first season. My main impressions were "well at least it feels like star trek again" but most of the stories were kinda meh and one of the better ones they just ripped from The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas (but iirc libbed up because did they even do anything? Did they just leave that kid in the torment nexus because uhh noninterventionism? I don't remember but thought it was weak shit)
and i cannot stress enough how much I do not ever need to see another "it's a submarine battle.... in SPACE!!" episode of Star Trek, christ, it's the episode that never ends
You're doing yourself a disservice, what Trek series has a great first season?
I love how Captain Freeman in Lower Decks (I think S2E1) talks about how she's annoyed by Starfleet's "policy of some intervention". Humanizes her while also calling out some prior Trek writers' occasional inadvertant-cruelty moments.
Sure but this guy is also too stupid to recognize that old trek hated him just as much as new trek
There are more good modern trek shows than bad ones
Good:
Lower Decks
Strange New Worlds
Prodigy
The Orville
Bad:
Discovery
Picard