I know I’ve expressed dislike for the guy in the past, but seriously? I thought for even something like this, he would at least have a good take on it.

  • kleeon [he/him, he/him]
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    4 months ago

    badempanada is annoying but some of the stuff he brought up is legitimately suspicious. This election was very likely rigged

    Having said that, I don't really care if maduro rigged the election. Election rigging can be perfectly fine in some cases and this might be one of those

    • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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      4 months ago

      Not gonna watch the video because I can't stand this kind of youtuber. What points did he bring up? Everything I've seen just points the allegations from the far right to be bunk and the only evidence they have is from a firm that is definitely a State Dep cutout.

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        4 months ago

        Started watching but didn't finish it because at like 3 minutes he outright says "I'm not going to cite anything because the people who support Maduro wouldn't believe any sources anyway". So nothing. He claims that "if you saw the videos venezuelans are being sent from family still in venezuela" you would agree with them. Which, okay, maybe post one then?

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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          4 months ago

          That's exactly why I don't like these unserious youtubers. Just preaching to a choir and they're so complacent they don't even hear themselves.

      • kleeon [he/him, he/him]
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        4 months ago

        stuff like pre-election polling showing clear opposition victory. And government still refusing to release raw vote counts, which seems to be highly irregular

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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          4 months ago

          The polls that gave the election to Gonzalez were from Edison which is a State Dept cutout, I don't know why they haven't released the vote counts yet but I'm sure it will all come about eventually. Ultimately, they don't owe the US anything of course, and it's not like the election was close either.

          • kleeon [he/him, he/him]
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            4 months ago

            The polls that gave the election to Gonzalez were from Edison which is a State Dept cutout

            I'm talking about pre-election polls, not exit polls. Idk, I've heard Venezuelan pollster are not great, especially firms like Meganalisis but who knows

            • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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              4 months ago

              Ah, sorry. Still, the fact the US had their guys in there gives a lot more weight to the notion this is just Guaido 2.0 and Maduro won cleanly, and I've yet to see any concrete evidence that there was anything actually fishy with the elections. The exit polls from Hinterlaces line up with the official results so I can't see why we should be casting doubt. The fact that a leftist with a moderately large audience is trying to carry water for the CIA is shameful in this circumstance where the op is so obvious.

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