• WhyEssEff [she/her]
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    1 month ago

    starting to come around to the idea that ‘self-hating Jew’ is a confession wrapped in an accusation because the most self-loathing people I have ever met are white Liberal Zionists. they’re constantly three steps away from dying on a failed morale check due to pure unalloyed cognitive dissonance and I have never met more people who have confessed mid-conversation (I went to a Jewish summer camp for a decade) that they wished to be further marginalized in some way (usually literally just in the “I want to be seen as more socially under attack than people see me as” selfishness that crackers who peddle this commonly have as their underlying belief). It’s happened enough times that I legit think it’s an enshrinable guy(tm)

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      1 month ago

      that they wished to be further marginalized in some way (usually literally just in the “I want to be seen as more socially under attack than people see me as”

      They should become Haredi then? Forgive me for saying that but it comes across to me like Haredi jews have a significantly harder time. If they genuinely desired this they could accomplish but they choose not to.

      • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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        1 month ago

        90% of the time they don't really want this. they want this to happen to them without any effort on their part and without losing anything.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          1 month ago

          Yeah my thought is that they want it as a tool to push their political goals (often variants of settler brained supremacy), without any of the consequences.