It's really frustrating, I was talking to someone about how successful China has been in de-radicalization of reactionaries. But they responded to this by saying they're only successful because, and I quote "put them all in concentration camps and killed them"

Has anyone here been successful in deprogramming people about this topic? If so any good sources I can use to dissuade them? I tried telling them that the UN report, if you read it, just says that there's concerns about abuse by internment offcials, and there's no evidence of genocide. But when I say this they just dismiss it as if the UN is controlled by the PRC. It's like a religion to liberals to believe anything bad about China and can get really frustrating.

  • Homme_Tanks [he/him, they/them]
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    3 months ago

    Maybe I'm actually crazy, but there was a time like a year or two ago when it seemed like the US actually gave up all pretenses and admitted it was bullshit? (edit:I should say it later seemed like this may have been reversed). I distinctly remember a collective cathartic sigh on then Twitter that the uyghur slander thing was FINALLY coming to an end. I definitely remember a NED tweet from well before then basically laying claim to supporting sowing extremism in the region, but I could also swear there was a major outlet expose (maybe multiple exposes) months later detailing all the state department bullshit surrounding the situation (e.g. deliberately mistranslating/mislabeling "job centres" to torture camps or something to that effect, and so on)

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      3 months ago

      Pretty sure they did, the state department said it didn't happen or at least there was no evidence, and then they picked right back up again

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        3 months ago

        Watch them go right back to it after genociding muslims in gaza for real.

    • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 months ago

      It seems to have died down in the news (I mean not really — the recent NATO War summit has shifted the anti-China narrative in the media to "China is militarily supporting Russia") but a lot of generic TV slop tries to insert China bad narratives in episodes.

    • Tabitha ☢️[she/her]
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      3 months ago

      You'd think we'd have a leftist wiki with a page on a subject like this with a sentence about an event like this with citation(s).