Feminine jobs are paid less. That's what the statistics show. I hate how the media presents it. From a marxist perspective, the correct framing is that feminine jobs are paid less, which is directly supported by the data. It seems like bourgeois media are intentionally warping the framing to make it sound like women are paid less for the exact same title and position as men, which isn't what the data shows. They are equivalent in education level, but not title or role or job. Garbage truck drivers and hair dressers are paid differently because society does not value feminine jobs as much as masculine jobs (and also capitalism has more leverage and takes more advantage of feminine labor).
The synthesis of the bourgeois media framing is that recruiters and employers are being too ruthless when they are hiring women, or women are not negotiating hard enough on the job hunt, when the actual problem is that women without a degree make 75% of what a man without a degree makes, and it's the same for higher education levels. Engineers and other stem jobs make more than the careers that are typically favored by feminine people.
It's a great marxist teaching moment I think, because the real problem is labor class and capitalist oppression, as usual.
When I jumped into the data it was the data behind the 75% of every one dollar study from about 8 years ago, which was a broad look across all employment and not specific to stem. I think it's fair to say maybe the data I'm referencing is outdated now and I shouldn't have assumed it stayed the same or was the same in every labor sector.
I know there are still differences in the same exact title/role/job that favor men, but at the time of the data in the 75% of every dollar study the framing was based on data that compared garbage truck drivers with hair stylists and that seemed very dishonest to me, especially when there's such a great marxist framing that could have been used instead.
That's true, women are paid less on average than men. I was just surprised that they compared such completely different jobs in order to get to that 75% for every dollar figure in that study. I had assumed they were the same jobs from the way the results of the data was framed. I thought it was interesting that the data was framed in that way, and thought maybe they did that because they know capitalism will never be able to resolve the difference in pay between a hair stylist and a garbage man so why shine a light on something that goes against their class interests.
Feminine jobs are paid less. That's what the statistics show. I hate how the media presents it. From a marxist perspective, the correct framing is that feminine jobs are paid less, which is directly supported by the data. It seems like bourgeois media are intentionally warping the framing to make it sound like women are paid less for the exact same title and position as men, which isn't what the data shows. They are equivalent in education level, but not title or role or job. Garbage truck drivers and hair dressers are paid differently because society does not value feminine jobs as much as masculine jobs (and also capitalism has more leverage and takes more advantage of feminine labor).
The synthesis of the bourgeois media framing is that recruiters and employers are being too ruthless when they are hiring women, or women are not negotiating hard enough on the job hunt, when the actual problem is that women without a degree make 75% of what a man without a degree makes, and it's the same for higher education levels. Engineers and other stem jobs make more than the careers that are typically favored by feminine people.
It's a great marxist teaching moment I think, because the real problem is labor class and capitalist oppression, as usual.
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Oh no no no it's so much worse lmao. Black men without criminal records are less likely to get jobs than white men with criminal records.
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When I jumped into the data it was the data behind the 75% of every one dollar study from about 8 years ago, which was a broad look across all employment and not specific to stem. I think it's fair to say maybe the data I'm referencing is outdated now and I shouldn't have assumed it stayed the same or was the same in every labor sector.
I know there are still differences in the same exact title/role/job that favor men, but at the time of the data in the 75% of every dollar study the framing was based on data that compared garbage truck drivers with hair stylists and that seemed very dishonest to me, especially when there's such a great marxist framing that could have been used instead.
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That's true, women are paid less on average than men. I was just surprised that they compared such completely different jobs in order to get to that 75% for every dollar figure in that study. I had assumed they were the same jobs from the way the results of the data was framed. I thought it was interesting that the data was framed in that way, and thought maybe they did that because they know capitalism will never be able to resolve the difference in pay between a hair stylist and a garbage man so why shine a light on something that goes against their class interests.
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