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      • bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Why though. Seriously, what's the reason for this? Please don't just say "capitalism". Fine, but what exact feature of capitalism would that be that says "The more critical your activity is to the functioning of our system, the less you get paid"? In capitalism's own logic, it should be the exact opposite.

        • culpritus [any]
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          The actual logic is 'the more your job serves to increase profits' which under capitalism always results in less pay for anyone that is not in that position. This is why a middle manager being good at getting workers to accept less pay is rewarded more than the most productive workers actually doing the production. It's inherent to the hierarchical stratification of social classes under capitalism. Paying people well for their productivity is not how to make profits under this system.

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        • context [fae/faer, fae/faer]
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          the hedge fund managers and c-level and other highly paid people in capitalist systems derive their wealth and income from control over ownership of capital: real estate, shares of companies, and so forth. real estate value ultimately depends on the ability to extract rents and mortgages from working people, taking a portion of their labor value in exchange for a temporary reprieve from the organized political violence that excludes people from using property. the value of ownership of a company depends on the ability of the company to make a profit, collecting more revenue than it pays out in expenses, including payroll. so it depends on the ability of the company to extract a portion of the labor value of its employees and transferring that to hedge fund managers, shareholders, and ceo's. that is the logic of capitalism, and it's how every billionaire obtains their wealth: extracting the value of others' labor.

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        • regul [any]
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          Capitalism doesn't value utility, though. It values the creation of profit in the immediate short term.

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          In capitalism's own logic, it should be the exact opposite.

          In capitalisms own rhetoric, yeah. In capitalism's actual logic, people who own things decide the rules, which means it's pretty inevitable that people who want to get paid as much as possible for as little work as possible ("passive income," etc.) would produce a system like this.

          If you gave the people who are the foundation of your business some level of security or even comfort by paying them well, it suddenly becomes a lot harder to pressure them into working overtime and through breaks when they don't even need to work full-time to begin with!

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    • Isopod_Activities [any, any]
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      naturally

      this is because while women do be shopping they instinctually know they must be shopping using their husband's (who they show infinite deference to as is the natural order of humanity) money.

  • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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    This has the same energy as Paul Krugman saying inflation doesn't exist if you simply ignore the cost of food, clothing, shelter, fuel, utilities, and transportation.

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          • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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            Having all the knowledge of the world in my pocket, so that I know that I am well and truly fucked. Truly a blessing from m'lord. you-are-a-serf

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              • NPa [he/him]
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                you-are-a-serf traded my soul to the Devil for a magic talisman that tells me to kill myself

          • hexthismess [he/him, comrade/them]
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            I'm gonna keep myself warm with the thought that peasants didn't know the luxury of flavor blasted cool ranch doritos.

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  • loathsome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
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    He turned Twitter into a fascist echo chamber and now he is completely unaware of how bad it looks when replies "!!" to a lukewarm gender pay gap penalty that is probably never ever gonna materialise.

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  • rootsbreadandmakka [he/him]
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    the data is clear: boys go to college to get more knowledge, girls go to jupiter to get more stupider

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    • quarrk [he/him]
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      I think recent stats are showing more women than men in postsecondary studies, so the script will soon flip to: men go into trades and do real work, while women study out-of-touch academic mumbojumbo and get paid too much

  • ihaveibs [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    If you control for the fact that we have labeled specific jobs for women and have systematically denigrated and underpaid women for those jobs, you can clearly see that women just happen to take lower paying jobs and thus there is no pay gap! I'm very smart.

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  • Kereru [he/him]
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    If businesses could pay women less to do the same job they would preferentially hire women and the pay gap would disappear.

    Yes I think perfectly rational actors is a valid assumption to base my whole field of study on why do you ask?

  • buckykat [none/use name]
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    3 months ago

    The gender pay gap doesn't exist but also I think it would be very bad if there were a law requiring it to not exist.

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    After unsuccessfully trying to trade a horse for a hand job Elon concludes that the gender pay gap must be a myth.

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    • heggs_bayer [he/him]
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      What is the origin of this horse for handjob bit? I've seen other people in the thread mention it, but I'm not familiar with the reference.

  • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br
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    In Brazil companies have to report the average and median of salaries of employees, by position, and self reported race and gender. I'm the BI analyst on the company I work for and HR asked me for a python script to do that, I was hoping they slip up and send me the complete salary company information but their smart asses send me the salary column with just 100 for everyone.

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        I didn't did the report to be presented to the government labor agency, just the script to generate the report. I asked for the database because I needed something to work with, but the final execution of the script, with the real database, were ran by the director of HR.

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    I mean if true that's cool. Extremely critical support.

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      • VOLCEL_POLICE [it/its]B
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        Show

        The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.

        نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.

        volcel-police

  • CarbonScored [any]
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    Once again, gender-based pay discrimination is already against the law in many European countries. Obviously doesn't fully address the problem, but works fine, not a huge deal.