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Dude just loves riling himself up into a frenzy, doesn’t he? I guess he was mad that Hasan was going to interview Obama, which never even happened, and now he thinks Hasan is a “genocide supporter” because a random YouTube clip he came across that said “Hasan supports Kamala’s policies”, which he never even watched and was most likely just clipped. Hasan isn’t perfect, but fuck, you think at least him going to the DNC as a journalist would be considered fair from BE. Wild.

    • SeekTheDeletion [none/use name]
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      then he's stupid, and he should know better, because she was never going to do that. What she might have done, if she wanted to appeal to youth voters, is give lip service to holding Israel accountable, like Obama and Reagan other presidents have done in the past. And if she did that he would be giving her kudos and promoting her.

      This level of incredulity and naivety is frustrating to deal with. You and I and Hassan should all know Democrats are never ever going to fucking stop supporting Israel. If Hassan doesn't know that, he's a stupid radlib. If he does, he's a networking grifter. There's no good world where someone smart and marxist holds out hope Kamala will become anti-imperialist randomly.

      • Barx [none/use name]
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        3 months ago

        I suppose it depends on whether he had any real expectation that she would be anything other than a supporter of Zionism to the hilt. If he thought she was anything else, he was foolish. But if he just wanted to set up his lib followers for radicalizing disappointment, that is not a bad strategy for a humble Twitch streamer lol. It's the same basic steps that netted us a bunch of new commies when Bernie (a Zionist socdem!) was ratfucked.

        • SeekTheDeletion [none/use name]
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          3 months ago

          But if he just wanted to set up his lib followers for radicalizing disappointment, that is not a bad strategy for a humble Twitch streamer lol.

          Why are you attributing this 5d chess to him? If Kamala had been tactical and instead offered lip service to 'hold israel accountable' or some shit he's pitched a slowball to the DNC to hit it out of the park. They just didn't even swing, because they don't care about youth voters whatsoever. Hasan was trying to give the DNC the path out, telling them exactly how to sheepdog his viewers back in, and they scorned him - but if they had instead accepted his offer and given lipservice to the anti-zionists then they would have eaten it up

          • Barx [none/use name]
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            3 months ago

            Why are you attributing this 5d chess to him?

            I don't think it's 5D chess to go, "let the libs prove to my audience that they will do the bad things" instead of "I will tell my audience the libs will do bad things". Do you think this is a complex strategy?

            If you re-read my comment, you will also find that I offered two scenarios and did not attribute anything to him.

            If Kamala had been tactical and instead offered lip service to 'hold israel accountable' or some shit he's pitched a slowball to the DNC to hit it out of the park.

            Either way he has pitched himself content to criticize. And there is no difference in that regardless of whether he would say "wait and see" vs. "they won't oppose the genocide".

            They just didn't even swing, because they don't care about youth voters whatsoever. Hasan was trying to give the DNC the path out, telling them exactly how to sheepdog his viewers back in, and they scorned him - but if they had instead accepted his offer and given lipservice to the anti-zionists then they would have eaten it up

            Their version of lip service is what they got. Feigned regret about death "on both sides" and then a clearly Zionist position. They said it was yime to end the "war". It sounds like you're imagining they bring out a Palestinian comprador to say "ceasefire" and condemn Hamas, but I don't think that would have the result you imagine.

      • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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        3 months ago

        What she might have done, if she wanted to appeal to youth voters, is give lip service to holding Israel accountable, like Obama and Reagan other presidents have done in the past.

        Reagan and Obama held Israel on a tighter leash, which would not have been an unreasonable expectation at all of Kamala. Nobody expected her to put on a Hamas headband and invade Tel Aviv, but compared to the uniquely fanatical zionist Biden it would not have surprised me to see Kamala do the bare minimum and actually take action to stop Israel's current onslaught.

        • footfaults [none/use name]
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          3 months ago

          I want to +1 this. My expectation was that Kamala would try and triangulate on Gaza by saddling Biden with all the bad decisions, make some noise about Gaza and put Israel on a tighter leash. Do just enough to put one over on the uncommitted movement by making some symbolic gestures and reap the rewards.

          But instead, no, she goes with maximalist support for Israel and the current policy.

        • SeekTheDeletion [none/use name]
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          3 months ago

          it would not have surprised me to see Kamala do the bare minimum and actually take action to stop Israel's current onslaught.

          This is what Hasan was hoping for too, so he could endorse her. She didn't give it to him

    • footfaults [none/use name]
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      I think that there have been plenty of times before the Convention where it was made very clear that she's not going to change direction.

      I felt this way, and for me personally it was the "I'm speaking" moment where it became clear to me. That was at least a couple weeks before the Convention.