Jill Stein can claim to not be a member of a party engage in genocide, can AOC say the same? neuman

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  • blame [they/them]
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    4 months ago

    When does this "pragmatism" pay off? When does it deliver results? This is the question these people never address. What is the purpose of being pragmatic?

    I'm old enough to have been around for a fair few election cycles now and I'm not sure I've ever actually seen things meaningfully change for the positive. All of the change I've been seeing throughout my life is a worsening of conditions for the majority of people, except in China and perhaps the EU until the last 10 years or so.

    • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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      4 months ago

      Always makes me think of that James Baldwin quote where he says something about “you told my uncle to wait, my mother to wait, me to wait. How long do we have to wait for your progress?” Like people are suffering now. The constraints around fixing this stuff is entirely arbitrary, and asking people to just accept this shit in the name of “pragmatism” is absolutely infuriating to me

    • Infamousblt [any]
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      4 months ago

      Pragmatism is building power forever without ever actually using that power

      • vegeta1 [he/him]
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        4 months ago

        Unless its forever wars or nuclear brinksmanship

        • Infamousblt [any]
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          4 months ago

          Those don't require political power because both parties equally support them

    • Barx [none/use name]
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      4 months ago

      "Pragmatic" is a weasel word that, in this context, means "supports the party line even for genocide".

      • blame [they/them]
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        4 months ago

        i dont know why you deleted this, i managed to read through it and thought it was thoughtful and insightful.

        • peeonyou [he/him]
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          4 months ago

          yeah i was just reading it and made it half through before i upvoted and it disappeared :(

        • RiotDoll [she/her, she/her]
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          4 months ago

          i genuinely gave myself anxiety over the thought of leaving it up, but i appreciate the sentiment