Tbf it's not a bad film, and I do think it was well-intentioned in its way. It's almost as if the ideological context were irreparably fucked that no matter what you do within that framework, you end up reproducing reactionary politics 🤔
I wouldn't call it reactionary. The message of the movie is about overcoming prejudice. Yea there are negative connotations if you try to directly transpose races into the allegory but that's certainly not the intent. Copaganda aspect is still problematic ig but I like b99 too
Hmm I think it definitely is intended as that sort of allegory though — otherwise how can the message be about overcoming prejudice? Prejudice against what? And yes, it's well-intentioned as I said, but, come on, in trying to tell a story about tolerance, they end up building this world where 'weak' and 'strong' are biologically distinct groups, and the message of the movie seems to be "yes, this is true, but we should look beyond these obvious facts".
Tbc, I don't even mean this as a criticism of the film — but these aforementioned aspects do tell us something about the culture at large, I think.
Sorry to derail, but is there something problematic about ‘DMV bad’ jokes? I just recently heard my uncle who gives off unscratched liberal vibes rant about how the DMV is incompetent and proud of it.
Thanks, and that’s usually the message I use with my family lib or chud.
They complain about an inefficiency? I just say “ehh, we get what we pay for.” I’m not taking a stance so I don’t get chewed out, and I diffuse any attempts to lord over DMV workers.
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I mean even taken at face value, the whole 'wolves and sheep' theme is just incredibly fascist isn't it lol
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Tbf it's not a bad film, and I do think it was well-intentioned in its way. It's almost as if the ideological context were irreparably fucked that no matter what you do within that framework, you end up reproducing reactionary politics 🤔
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I wouldn't call it reactionary. The message of the movie is about overcoming prejudice. Yea there are negative connotations if you try to directly transpose races into the allegory but that's certainly not the intent. Copaganda aspect is still problematic ig but I like b99 too
Hmm I think it definitely is intended as that sort of allegory though — otherwise how can the message be about overcoming prejudice? Prejudice against what? And yes, it's well-intentioned as I said, but, come on, in trying to tell a story about tolerance, they end up building this world where 'weak' and 'strong' are biologically distinct groups, and the message of the movie seems to be "yes, this is true, but we should look beyond these obvious facts".
Tbc, I don't even mean this as a criticism of the film — but these aforementioned aspects do tell us something about the culture at large, I think.
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Sorry to derail, but is there something problematic about ‘DMV bad’ jokes? I just recently heard my uncle who gives off unscratched liberal vibes rant about how the DMV is incompetent and proud of it.
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Thanks, and that’s usually the message I use with my family lib or chud.
They complain about an inefficiency? I just say “ehh, we get what we pay for.” I’m not taking a stance so I don’t get chewed out, and I diffuse any attempts to lord over DMV workers.