Can we go back to the days where RPGs were all modable, and there would be a sketchy website with horny cosmetic mods for every possible orientation and preference, and nobody really talked about it?
I was just thinking about that too lol. People have done this shit forever but they used to do it with the mentality of “I’m a perverted little piglet who like smut and should be ashamed” and they would behave with the appropriate level of shame. Whereas now they think they’re fucking freedom fighters for this shit and they think being horny and sexualizing every possible female character is somehow subversive? Just orders of magnitude more annoying. I miss the days when these folks kept their perversions appropriately sequestered to their quite little corner of the internet.
i don't think "behaving with shame" is the good part, and the shame mostly comes from the same weird ass shit as the modern-day horny freedom fighters. It's all just sexual pathology, and in a sane community people would keep those things sequestered to separate spaces because not everyone wants to see them, not because they'd feel internal shame for it
I think it's concerning that even this leftist website can only conceive of sexual stuff in a binary of shame or objectification, with no middle ground or acknowledgement of a radically feminist reconstruction of sexuality.
I acknowledge the correctness of what you’re saying while also responding with the suggestion that you are perhaps over intellectualizing my completely unserious desire to shame all gamers for their collective preoccupation with jiggle physics
Edit: unless it's applied everywhere and the end result is generic male bandit #269 having their stomach collide with the floor at the incorrect angle and shredding the entire gpu cache
And seriously, if you write a joke that sounds like a serious statement, I WILL respond to it as if it is one. And plus I don't even think g*mers should feel shame over getting their horny kicks out of jiggle physics in games, I think shaming people for things like that is outright harmful. I DO take issue with said g*mers taking that fantasy of booby jiggle physics women and expecting both all IRL women to be like that and expecting depictions of women to be like that, and that's what this whole AI g*mer's "edit" is, just gross entitled g*mer shit.
It's possible for things presented in art to be sensual and sexy without it being cheap and lazy sensationalism. It's a subjective thing, sure, but in broad strokes I can say that the "improvement" in the OP picture is cheap and lazy sensationalism.
And to be clear, I'm not defending the weird misogynistic shit of the AI cultist. Whatever this "improvement" is supposed to be probably can't even be described as a primarily sexual thing, it seems mostly based on a seething hatred of women in any role except sexual subservience. Which isn't actually sexual, just an example of someone's brainworms around sex.
I am referring to things people do inside their own privacy. Shame in general is almost entirely useless for making oneself less brainwormed, and I would actually say it's mere existence around a subject is a sign of stigma, which is only really an acceptable thing to be present if we're talking about pedos and animal r*pists who should be stigmatized. But when it comes to consensual sex between adults (or just one adult lol) stigma and shame is really only good for creating weird complexes of having a "better sexuality" than others, or worse, having a "worse sexuality" than others. It's far better to genuinely examine and consider one's sexuality and see the ways it might be harming others or where it could be coming from, than it is to judge it off a knee jerk reaction of shame or "weirdness".
All these ways of policing consensual, adult sexual behavior are pretty much all originating in or synergistic with misogyny, too. There's very specific things about what it's acceptable to be into and all of them happen to be what's compatible with patriarchal family structures.
Well that's exactly it, when we assume we should feel shame we assume that the shameful and bad portrayals and forms of sexuality are the only ones that can exist. It's like capitalist realism but for sex
This fit my experience growing up to a T. I was a teenager with unsupervised internet access, so a lot of the stuff I "learned" from sex came from material that treated misogyny, slut-shaming, and violence as a given. Discovering work that portrayed sex as something that could be founded in mutual enjoyment and respect was such a watershed moment for me.
Whereas now they think they’re fucking freedom fighters for this shit and they think being horny and sexualizing every possible female character is somehow subversive?
I don't think gooners and the actual perverts (not people who simply like smut, but constantly sex-brained creeps) ever had shame tbh. It's not a new thing, it's just new mediums for them to be creeps on (internet, gaming) rather than real life. They're no different from the age-old "creepy uncle"/"catcalling neanderthal"/"moral paragon who loses control when they see an exposed ankle" crowd.
Can we go back to the days where RPGs were all modable, and there would be a sketchy website with horny cosmetic mods for every possible orientation and preference, and nobody really talked about it?
I was just thinking about that too lol. People have done this shit forever but they used to do it with the mentality of “I’m a perverted little piglet who like smut and should be ashamed” and they would behave with the appropriate level of shame. Whereas now they think they’re fucking freedom fighters for this shit and they think being horny and sexualizing every possible female character is somehow subversive? Just orders of magnitude more annoying. I miss the days when these folks kept their perversions appropriately sequestered to their quite little corner of the internet.
i don't think "behaving with shame" is the good part, and the shame mostly comes from the same weird ass shit as the modern-day horny freedom fighters. It's all just sexual pathology, and in a sane community people would keep those things sequestered to separate spaces because not everyone wants to see them, not because they'd feel internal shame for it
I think it's concerning that even this leftist website can only conceive of sexual stuff in a binary of shame or objectification, with no middle ground or acknowledgement of a radically feminist reconstruction of sexuality.
I acknowledge the correctness of what you’re saying while also responding with the suggestion that you are perhaps over intellectualizing my completely unserious desire to shame all gamers for their collective preoccupation with jiggle physics
ok that's valid jiggle physics suck anyways
Edit: unless it's applied everywhere and the end result is generic male bandit #269 having their stomach collide with the floor at the incorrect angle and shredding the entire gpu cache
And seriously, if you write a joke that sounds like a serious statement, I WILL respond to it as if it is one. And plus I don't even think g*mers should feel shame over getting their horny kicks out of jiggle physics in games, I think shaming people for things like that is outright harmful. I DO take issue with said g*mers taking that fantasy of booby jiggle physics women and expecting both all IRL women to be like that and expecting depictions of women to be like that, and that's what this whole AI g*mer's "edit" is, just gross entitled g*mer shit.
It's possible for things presented in art to be sensual and sexy without it being cheap and lazy sensationalism. It's a subjective thing, sure, but in broad strokes I can say that the "improvement" in the OP picture is cheap and lazy sensationalism.
And to be clear, I'm not defending the weird misogynistic shit of the AI cultist. Whatever this "improvement" is supposed to be probably can't even be described as a primarily sexual thing, it seems mostly based on a seething hatred of women in any role except sexual subservience. Which isn't actually sexual, just an example of someone's brainworms around sex.
I am referring to things people do inside their own privacy. Shame in general is almost entirely useless for making oneself less brainwormed, and I would actually say it's mere existence around a subject is a sign of stigma, which is only really an acceptable thing to be present if we're talking about pedos and animal r*pists who should be stigmatized. But when it comes to consensual sex between adults (or just one adult lol) stigma and shame is really only good for creating weird complexes of having a "better sexuality" than others, or worse, having a "worse sexuality" than others. It's far better to genuinely examine and consider one's sexuality and see the ways it might be harming others or where it could be coming from, than it is to judge it off a knee jerk reaction of shame or "weirdness".
All these ways of policing consensual, adult sexual behavior are pretty much all originating in or synergistic with misogyny, too. There's very specific things about what it's acceptable to be into and all of them happen to be what's compatible with patriarchal family structures.
Well that's exactly it, when we assume we should feel shame we assume that the shameful and bad portrayals and forms of sexuality are the only ones that can exist. It's like capitalist realism but for sex
This fit my experience growing up to a T. I was a teenager with unsupervised internet access, so a lot of the stuff I "learned" from sex came from material that treated misogyny, slut-shaming, and violence as a given. Discovering work that portrayed sex as something that could be founded in mutual enjoyment and respect was such a watershed moment for me.
I don't think gooners and the actual perverts (not people who simply like smut, but constantly sex-brained creeps) ever had shame tbh. It's not a new thing, it's just new mediums for them to be creeps on (internet, gaming) rather than real life. They're no different from the age-old "creepy uncle"/"catcalling neanderthal"/"moral paragon who loses control when they see an exposed ankle" crowd.