I can't help but be triggered to effortpost by this. I know I said something to this effect in the other thread you made, and I'm glad to see many others here saying the same thing, but holy shit dude, this guy should just look at porn. It's clearly all these dudes want to do, just goon their lives away. There's something so deeply unsettling to me about this specific combination of militaristic murderdeath with bullets penetrating flesh, and this juvenile pornographic and dehumanized perspective on more than half of the human race. It just betrays this libidinal desire from their id that just wants to violently murderrape women. Even if they're incels who are too physically and emotionally incompetent to even get close to achieving that, the fact that there are (if not large in number, certainly vocal) men who think like this and who stoke each other's desires is terrifying as a woman. It's not hard to imagine at a certain point the wires get crossed and the fantasies of power through violence get misdirected at the "objects" of their erotic attraction.
Like, I love something like Ion Fury, right?
of course, but that shooter feels like a power fantasy for all genders with just a little bit of cheesecake. She's hot and powerful and violent, but it never feels like agency is being taken away from her or that she literally just exists as an object to be jacked off over.Whatever this "improvement" is supposed to be probably can't even be described as a primarily sexual thing, it seems mostly based on a seething hatred of women in any role except sexual subservience. Which isn't actually sexual, just an example of someone's brainworms around sex.
God this is so real, @EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net. While the constant feed of porn and "gooning" play a clear part of this, I think you're right that at its core is a deep hatred of women. It's not even about sex, I imagine many of them would actually be repulsed at the thought of actual physical intimacy. Maybe DE was right and that really is the ultimate starting point of fascism.
It's self-evident, but these men just hate women. They have such clear annoyance and contempt for them. They feel so entitled to women's bodies from media brainwashing and nearly 6000 years of overwhelmingly patriarchal world history. They see not letting them cum in you as an affront, as real violence against their fragile egos. "How dare you?!" They don't even want to see women happy. They want women to prioritize literally everyone except themselves. They don't want to see women self-actualize and be beautiful and powerful on their own terms. They just want to jack off to disposable second-class citizens to feel any sort of power.
Can you even fucking imagine hating women like that? Its hard for me to conceive. The women of the world, who endure and give so fucking much. Mothers, Daughters, Sisters, Friends.
How are these fascist men even human anymore at that point?
wall. wall. all of them. wall. its kinder than they deserve.
Why does everything have to be porn to these freaks? Video games, movies, TV shows, they wanted to bring porn to fucking Lemmy
I know the
are a meme, but I unironically love it so much and our site culture in general. It's so nice to have at least one space online that isn't yet another porn site.It's about power over women by reducing them down to their looks & sexuality. It's basic hierarchical chuddery. A woman's primary purpose has to be being a sex object for men.
It's consooomer brain. They like porn, so everything must be porn at all times.
they wanted to bring porn to fucking Lemmy
I'm assuming this is referring to the main Lemmy instance because self hosting an instance for sexual content doesn't seem really all the unreasonable?
These people think that great art comes from being horny. In fact it comes from being a disgusting pervert
It's difficult for me to even call the "improvement" perverted. It's so generic. It looks like something that'd be in the background of a show scene showing a horny teenager's room that needs to establish how horny the teenager is.
You jest, but learning how to draw is a great way to channel repressed bisexuality.
Jesus christ that mouth edit, these people have fried their brains gooning lmao
They literally can't see anything without wanting it to be porno
If that character has spoken lines, were they also "improved" into "OH YES DADDY" porn shit, too?
Reminds me of the first time I played UT2k4 and put on the sexy voice and the announcer loudly moaned "HEADSHOT" as I was blasting it from my speakers in the middle of the day.
I never turned the sound down so fast and within the minute had a knock on my door to see what I was doing.
And ironically these are some of the most Jesus-y rose-cheeked suburbanites in the world who will tell you that a tomboyish design for a woman is WAY too raunchy.
- "Look, this is such a a sad and generic violation of VolCel misdemeanor codes that I'm going to let you off with a warning."
Can we go back to the days where RPGs were all modable, and there would be a sketchy website with horny cosmetic mods for every possible orientation and preference, and nobody really talked about it?
I was just thinking about that too lol. People have done this shit forever but they used to do it with the mentality of “I’m a perverted little piglet who like smut and should be ashamed” and they would behave with the appropriate level of shame. Whereas now they think they’re fucking freedom fighters for this shit and they think being horny and sexualizing every possible female character is somehow subversive? Just orders of magnitude more annoying. I miss the days when these folks kept their perversions appropriately sequestered to their quite little corner of the internet.
i don't think "behaving with shame" is the good part, and the shame mostly comes from the same weird ass shit as the modern-day horny freedom fighters. It's all just sexual pathology, and in a sane community people would keep those things sequestered to separate spaces because not everyone wants to see them, not because they'd feel internal shame for it
I think it's concerning that even this leftist website can only conceive of sexual stuff in a binary of shame or objectification, with no middle ground or acknowledgement of a radically feminist reconstruction of sexuality.
I acknowledge the correctness of what you’re saying while also responding with the suggestion that you are perhaps over intellectualizing my completely unserious desire to shame all gamers for their collective preoccupation with jiggle physics
ok that's valid jiggle physics suck anyways
Edit: unless it's applied everywhere and the end result is generic male bandit #269 having their stomach collide with the floor at the incorrect angle and shredding the entire gpu cache
And seriously, if you write a joke that sounds like a serious statement, I WILL respond to it as if it is one. And plus I don't even think g*mers should feel shame over getting their horny kicks out of jiggle physics in games, I think shaming people for things like that is outright harmful. I DO take issue with said g*mers taking that fantasy of booby jiggle physics women and expecting both all IRL women to be like that and expecting depictions of women to be like that, and that's what this whole AI g*mer's "edit" is, just gross entitled g*mer shit.
It's possible for things presented in art to be sensual and sexy without it being cheap and lazy sensationalism. It's a subjective thing, sure, but in broad strokes I can say that the "improvement" in the OP picture is cheap and lazy sensationalism.
And to be clear, I'm not defending the weird misogynistic shit of the AI cultist. Whatever this "improvement" is supposed to be probably can't even be described as a primarily sexual thing, it seems mostly based on a seething hatred of women in any role except sexual subservience. Which isn't actually sexual, just an example of someone's brainworms around sex.
I am referring to things people do inside their own privacy. Shame in general is almost entirely useless for making oneself less brainwormed, and I would actually say it's mere existence around a subject is a sign of stigma, which is only really an acceptable thing to be present if we're talking about pedos and animal r*pists who should be stigmatized. But when it comes to consensual sex between adults (or just one adult lol) stigma and shame is really only good for creating weird complexes of having a "better sexuality" than others, or worse, having a "worse sexuality" than others. It's far better to genuinely examine and consider one's sexuality and see the ways it might be harming others or where it could be coming from, than it is to judge it off a knee jerk reaction of shame or "weirdness".
All these ways of policing consensual, adult sexual behavior are pretty much all originating in or synergistic with misogyny, too. There's very specific things about what it's acceptable to be into and all of them happen to be what's compatible with patriarchal family structures.
Well that's exactly it, when we assume we should feel shame we assume that the shameful and bad portrayals and forms of sexuality are the only ones that can exist. It's like capitalist realism but for sex
This fit my experience growing up to a T. I was a teenager with unsupervised internet access, so a lot of the stuff I "learned" from sex came from material that treated misogyny, slut-shaming, and violence as a given. Discovering work that portrayed sex as something that could be founded in mutual enjoyment and respect was such a watershed moment for me.
Whereas now they think they’re fucking freedom fighters for this shit and they think being horny and sexualizing every possible female character is somehow subversive?
I don't think gooners and the actual perverts (not people who simply like smut, but constantly sex-brained creeps) ever had shame tbh. It's not a new thing, it's just new mediums for them to be creeps on (internet, gaming) rather than real life. They're no different from the age-old "creepy uncle"/"catcalling neanderthal"/"moral paragon who loses control when they see an exposed ankle" crowd.
This clown really patting himself on the back for using energy that will raze a lot of forrest land down to form gooning material. What a fucking loser
Ah yes a green bra. So much more realistic and less "generic"
Beyond parody
What if I told you it's empowering for the feeemale to fight in a bikini because agility bonuses or something? Don't ask me why men characters don't and shouldn't do that. That'd be gay.
Don't ask me why men characters don't and shouldn't do that.
because game developers are cowards who hate fun
I'm actually much more open to horny fiction costumes if they're even-handedly horny.
When it's that
shit where male characters have full plate armor and the feeeeemale with the same gear has a bikini, that's deeply unserious.
Don't ask me why men characters don't and shouldn't do that.
TBH, there is Conan, who wears only boots and loincloth.
The Frank Frazetta version of Conan, anyway. And that guy just really liked naked and near-naked bodies in general.
: “I want improved graphics.”
: “Ok here you go.”
: “VIDYA BETRAYED US RIGHT WING MEN!”By that logic, Baldur’s gate 3 must be the most conservative game of all since it lets you play as a woman who can streak in-game, uncensored.
weakest goon material ever. Either head back to the goon caves for regoonification, or simply becum a sexless republican that goes awooga over Booba and blow up doll mouf. Make actual inspired goontactular art, or leave your anti-woke goon mitts off of badass heroines and their sacred franchises. (Trying to circle the bit around arguments against Mary Sue shoehorning that the hogs still can't stop complaining about, meanwhile they had decades of homoerotic greased up Ubermench to fawn over and shape themselves around, both ways ;3)less bland and generic
What is more bland and generic than treat printers printing out even more spank bank material for gooners?
Sure, it's been improved a little...
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If a sweaty nerd putting bigger boobs on comic book characters via photoshop was a thing in the simpsons people would say it's a bad bit because it's too on the nose. But no, this is our bluecheck dumb ass reality.
Impressive, they made a NRS character design look better by comparison
