This is why I don’t buy the “Republicans will be gone within a decade” narrative. They still could very well have the senate and possibly the house even if they lose the presidential election. Worst-case scenario for them is having only the senate.
People have been confidently predicting the Republicans downfall since its creation with the amount of factionalism and periods of struggle they’ve gone through.
The parties are always chasing to become each other. Democrats were for unregulated capitalism and against American interventionism with the Bourbon Democrats, then Republicans took those same positions with Calvin Coolidge. Democrats were the founders of modern US imperialism with Wilson and then Republicans became associated with it. It seems this is one of the only times Democrats have tried to emulate the Republicans and they’ve been doing that since the Nixon/Reagan era.
What it could lead to is a period where Republicans struggle in every election for some time as they try to find the next thing to pivot to. At the moment they’re currently doing better in the house and senate than they were during the Great Depression, Great society, and George HW presidency. Two of these periods had several commentators predicting their death, especially during the Great Depression. I have a feeling that the end of Trumpism will probably lead to another shot in the arm as many who are currently sworn off the party will come back once he’s gone and a return to “normalcy” occurs.
Expect more Nikki Hayley types in the future unless another charismatic figure appears to start yet another faction within the party. The republicans have a knack for having that happen.
The prerequisite for US political theatre is there has to be two parties. This is why speculating about one party no longer existing is always dumb. There will always be political realignment. I think people are confusing political realignment, which is probably happening now, with a party being doomed somehow. I could see the end result of this political realignment being the Democrats as neocons with rainbow characteristics and the Republicans as MAGA social democracy.
It might seem silly now, but I could see this happening by the mid 2030s. Mainstream LGBT is already thoroughly captured by the Democrats and willing accomplices of pinkwashing. And as for the Republicans, I've noticed how what's left of organized labor is shifting towards the Republicans, which would have been unthinkable even 15 years ago. The Democrats are losing organized labor and that Teamster poll showing them favoring Trump is only the beginning. At this point, all it takes is for a Democrat president to put down a traffic controller strike for organized labor to be a solid Republican voter bloc. The MAGA communist patsocs are clowns who no one takes seriously, but I do think a slight rebranding where the Soviet and communist iconography is replaced with more social democratic and USian iconography would sell pretty well among Republicans.
i mean people were legitimately better off under trump. the stimulus checks were the basically only time in my life (in my 30's) that anything from a president had an actual effect on me in a positive way. obamacare is shit as a worker, it's effectively a 200 dollar a month tax on my paycheck that covers nothing
obviously he won't do that again or whatever, but like it makes sense from a certain perspective to want him back instead of the absolute disdain the dems give workers lol
dems had the opportunity to up this with loan forgiveness, but here we are
This is probably very likely. Do we think Liz Cheney is going to vote straight Democrat down the ballot? All this shifting to right wing points to get Republican votes could mean Harris wins the Presidency, and then the Rep voters switch back for every other race..
This is why I don’t buy the “Republicans will be gone within a decade” narrative. They still could very well have the senate and possibly the house even if they lose the presidential election. Worst-case scenario for them is having only the senate.
Oh they will be gone
Because the democrats will have become them,thus rendering them obsolete
People have been confidently predicting the Republicans downfall since its creation with the amount of factionalism and periods of struggle they’ve gone through.
The parties are always chasing to become each other. Democrats were for unregulated capitalism and against American interventionism with the Bourbon Democrats, then Republicans took those same positions with Calvin Coolidge. Democrats were the founders of modern US imperialism with Wilson and then Republicans became associated with it. It seems this is one of the only times Democrats have tried to emulate the Republicans and they’ve been doing that since the Nixon/Reagan era.
What it could lead to is a period where Republicans struggle in every election for some time as they try to find the next thing to pivot to. At the moment they’re currently doing better in the house and senate than they were during the Great Depression, Great society, and George HW presidency. Two of these periods had several commentators predicting their death, especially during the Great Depression. I have a feeling that the end of Trumpism will probably lead to another shot in the arm as many who are currently sworn off the party will come back once he’s gone and a return to “normalcy” occurs.
Expect more Nikki Hayley types in the future unless another charismatic figure appears to start yet another faction within the party. The republicans have a knack for having that happen.
The prerequisite for US political theatre is there has to be two parties. This is why speculating about one party no longer existing is always dumb. There will always be political realignment. I think people are confusing political realignment, which is probably happening now, with a party being doomed somehow. I could see the end result of this political realignment being the Democrats as neocons with rainbow characteristics and the Republicans as MAGA social democracy.
It might seem silly now, but I could see this happening by the mid 2030s. Mainstream LGBT is already thoroughly captured by the Democrats and willing accomplices of pinkwashing. And as for the Republicans, I've noticed how what's left of organized labor is shifting towards the Republicans, which would have been unthinkable even 15 years ago. The Democrats are losing organized labor and that Teamster poll showing them favoring Trump is only the beginning. At this point, all it takes is for a Democrat president to put down a traffic controller strike for organized labor to be a solid Republican voter bloc. The MAGA communist patsocs are clowns who no one takes seriously, but I do think a slight rebranding where the Soviet and communist iconography is replaced with more social democratic and USian iconography would sell pretty well among Republicans.
I'm getting really cursed "when MAGAsocialism comes to America it'll be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross" vibes
i mean people were legitimately better off under trump. the stimulus checks were the basically only time in my life (in my 30's) that anything from a president had an actual effect on me in a positive way. obamacare is shit as a worker, it's effectively a 200 dollar a month tax on my paycheck that covers nothing
obviously he won't do that again or whatever, but like it makes sense from a certain perspective to want him back instead of the absolute disdain the dems give workers lol
dems had the opportunity to up this with loan forgiveness, but here we are
This is probably very likely. Do we think Liz Cheney is going to vote straight Democrat down the ballot? All this shifting to right wing points to get Republican votes could mean Harris wins the Presidency, and then the Rep voters switch back for every other race..
I don't even think Liz Cheney will vote for Harris in the first place.