This wasn't really adressed, so I'm just gonna include my comment from the last thread, so maybe it will get adressed, as it was way out of pocket and deserves a response.
I think there should probably be some accountability for whoever was/were behind "the white cishet man vibes" part of the post, editing it out of the original post doesn't change that is was there, saying that shit was kinda fucked, as many people in the original post noted
Yeah if you go view the front page of the dredge tank right now, only 4/20 of the posts there are made by people primarily using he/him pronouns. So not only was it a shitty thing to say, it was also factually untrue. And that's not even mentioning that some of those guys using he/him pronouns are likely not het and/or cis either, given the demographics on hexbear.
seconding this again... feels like admins just want us to move on from how wildly objectionable that was. whoever came up with that shit should certainly not be a mod and should honestly have to do some self crit or get banned.
Whoever came up with it and whoever signed off on it. Anyone who saw it, read it, and understood what it said and DIDN'T object should self-crit heavily at the very least.
Not trying to be confrontational but why is the “white cishet man vibes" remark such a big deal? That seems like something to talk about, not shut down. Why did someone feel that way? Even if the remark turns out to be off-base we might learn something from talking it out.
*edit after reading more comments, I guess dunk tank users felt misgendered, which is an example of why making flippant sweeping statements like that is dangerous, and why we should talk things out patiently and thoughtfully on this site instead of launching into whirlwind struggle sessions. I still think the remark is worth discussing.
I'm a trans woman. Many of the things I am interested in are male-dominated spaces. This has been used to say "are you really a woman? If you are, why are you in the spaces that men are? Sounds male socialized to me." This is what the admin statement sounds like.
This wasn't really adressed, so I'm just gonna include my comment from the last thread, so maybe it will get adressed, as it was way out of pocket and deserves a response.
Yeah if you go view the front page of the dredge tank right now, only 4/20 of the posts there are made by people primarily using he/him pronouns. So not only was it a shitty thing to say, it was also factually untrue. And that's not even mentioning that some of those guys using he/him pronouns are likely not het and/or cis either, given the demographics on hexbear.
Eyy!
seconding this again... feels like admins just want us to move on from how wildly objectionable that was. whoever came up with that shit should certainly not be a mod and should honestly have to do some self crit or get banned.
Whoever came up with it and whoever signed off on it. Anyone who saw it, read it, and understood what it said and DIDN'T object should self-crit heavily at the very least.
Not trying to be confrontational but why is the “white cishet man vibes" remark such a big deal? That seems like something to talk about, not shut down. Why did someone feel that way? Even if the remark turns out to be off-base we might learn something from talking it out.
*edit after reading more comments, I guess dunk tank users felt misgendered, which is an example of why making flippant sweeping statements like that is dangerous, and why we should talk things out patiently and thoughtfully on this site instead of launching into whirlwind struggle sessions. I still think the remark is worth discussing.
I'm a trans woman. Many of the things I am interested in are male-dominated spaces. This has been used to say "are you really a woman? If you are, why are you in the spaces that men are? Sounds male socialized to me." This is what the admin statement sounds like.