Hexbear's new head of operations just dropped, and their way of dealing with the fallout of their last struggle session is to hand bans out like candy to their concerned and disillusioned users while throwing out "epic" quips like insecure teenagers along the way coupled with their communication (and seemingly contempt) towards their own userbase which isn't helping their allegations at all and the revelations that were learned about Hexbear's moderators and admins from their most recent struggle session.

The last few days have honestly shaken my faith in Hexbear and their team and I hope the mods and admins at Lemmygrad are monitoring the situation closely.

  • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]
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    11 days ago

    Late-stage irony poisoning

    In addition to the first ban wave which was partially a bit or something cuz people requested to be banned so TC69 used a random number generator but also entries in the modlog that have the RNG stuff weren't people who requested it??, some of our admins are now banning their alts as a bit to start drama, other obvious alts are coming out to call it out and continue more drama, there's more but...... you get the idea :/

    Idk, this all started in an attempt to make our site more serious by replacing the_{dunk,dredge}_tank with higher effort alternatives and now that that didn't go through it's all a joke now

    Honestly I may log off for a while too, is not rly that funny to me :/ People on this site have literally fed me and my friend, kept us out of overdraft status on bank accts, I learned so much from reading stuff here or books I learned about from here, people have been housed cuz of this site, someone nearby legit offered to take care of one of my irl friend's pets when he was homeless for a bit, I met new friends here that I talk to every day. It's not a political party but it's not just a giant shitpost either, so idk where this is going :/

    I'm sure this looks even worse from the outside wowee, but it's okay, site has survived worse

    Like FuckyWucky mentioned, there is a lot of talking going on behind the scenes and no one outside rly knows what is going on sooooo..... we see what happens I guess

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        11 days ago

        the admins seem to have wanted HB to be more serious for a long time now, well before federation.

        LG is also not a left unity space the way HB is. it would only be a suitable fit for some (admittedly likely most) of our users.

        • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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          11 days ago

          the admins seem to have wanted HB to be more serious for a long time now, well before federation.

          They should lead by example.

          • Kuori [she/her]
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            11 days ago

            sure, i agree with that. i think i'd personally rather they just dropped the notion altogether, or even just accept that you can have both in the same space with little detriment.

            mostly i just wish they weren't doing...whatever this is.

        • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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          11 days ago

          the admins seem to have wanted HB to be more serious for a long time now, well before federation.

          They must fucking hate me then lmao.

          Well they can deal with the silly, because I'm not about to be less silly and if my silly comrades go then I go too.

            • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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              11 days ago

              Lmao nah, we just need to get rid of some of the problematic mods and unban the people who were wrongfully banned and learn from the damn experience, like I know we can.

      • Water Bowl Slime@lemmygrad.ml
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        11 days ago

        Hexbears seem averse to posting here. When cheap dunking posts were banned, they created another tank comm instead of posting to SRS or SUS. Even now that the tanks are shut, there haven't been any bears that've posted to lemmygrad's equivalent comms.

        • Parzivus@lemmygrad.ml
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          11 days ago

          Hexbear was around for a couple years before federation was a thing so a lot of people only ever post there.
          Also, and I say this as a frequent Hexbear poster, the average Hexbear user has read zero theory and just wants somewhere lefty to shitpost. There is not a ton of overlap between them and people that use Lemmygrad/Leftypol/etc

      • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]
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        11 days ago

        Idk tbh, regardless I feel like they don't have to be contradictory

        I come to this site for the shitposts and the genuine discussion and political education resources

        I should also mention the proposal post later also had statements from mods who said they proposed the idea cuz they thought "dunk" culture has "cishet white vibes", which...... idk, is maybe fair, Hexbear is rly white sometimes and I would hate for people to be put off by that (good reason to be put off ofc). It wasn't rly elaborated upon though

      • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]
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        11 days ago

        wonder-who-thats-for hehehe

        Tbh I just ate some decent food (after not rly eating anything for a few days cuz of external factors™ in my kinda bad life-situation rn), pet a cat, read your reply in the struggle sesh megathread, feeling less bad about the whole thing

        Really appreciate you genuinely just clarifying what happened including what the rest of the admin team saw, I feel like most of this is just rly bad communication primarily from admins/mods but also the rest of the users (sucked seeing Carcosa's decision get completely torn apart so badly that they tried to resign before the userbase rejected that lol, I hope they not too stalin-bummed about it especially cuz how much they do for our site regardless of this one thing). It's still been a total mess but it's nothing irreconcilable or unfixable

        10/10 perfect bad-good-good-bad bit 07, I hope your recovery from food poisoning is going well cat-trans

        Long live the cabal :3

    • NoYouLogOff [he/him, they/them]
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      11 days ago

      Honestly almost all of the response by leadership vs users is temp bans, so I'm thinking actual damages aren't even that bad? But the blood is up so maybe cooling down while whatever behind the scenes stuff gets figured out might be good.

      • Gribbli@lemmygrad.ml
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        11 days ago

        Was a long time HB member since the subreddit days. Autistic, black, nb, so none of the accusations of cishet white male vibes applied to me - that was annoying. The flippant dismissal and joking around with this entirely irony poisoned energy with mods still doing bits and lying about shit was straight up aggravating. Ate the perma because like a few people there, I don't think I could trust the mods/admins after that. It's not a high stakes thing for me but that means it's also low enough stakes that I really don't want to deal with that attitude any more.

      • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]
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        11 days ago

        Yeah we probablydefinitely all need to relax lol, regardless there is def criticism to be made about this whole behind-the-scenes adminning thing that developed after our chaotic first year needing to..... idk... have more democracy again? After this whole thing especially

        I just saw a bunch of people get unbanned now so idk, hard to keep track of it all

        I'm gonna go, like....... make a meal and do and think about something other than niche web forum drama now lol

    • Aradina [She/They]@lemmy.ml
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      11 days ago

      They reversed a few bans, but not mine. So apparently something I said was particularly objectionable. I'm not sure what though.

      • Aradina [She/They]@lemmy.ml
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        11 days ago

        I figured it out: It's people who were banned with the haha funny bit reason when it was pointed out they hadn't actually requested a random ban and were clearly just banned out of spite.

        This does seem a lot like the mods wanted to obfuscate the bans of people being critical

        • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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          11 days ago

          Yeah, seems like they'll be justifying it by saying they are just "temp bans" so it is ok. But it's still pretty fucked up for their biggest critics in the thread to be effectively silenced for "going against the (mod) hivemind" or whatever libs say about us.