stuff like "Well you call them the scum of the earth, why wouldnt they hate you"

Why are parts of the left like this? Seemingly caring more about courting the psychopath incel who wants a white ethnostate rather than stand in solidarity and antiracism with POC?

i always get disgusted and disillusioned when i come upon it

  • godlessworm [comrade/them]
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    3 days ago

    people like amber say shit like this because imo they're desperate to distance themselves from the fascist's made stereotype of left wing people, where we're all overly sensitive, "PC", whatever bullshit you normally hear. just like when someone from a minority group agrees with white supremacists in hopes that they'll be deemed "one of the good ones". i don't know why certain people are just dying to be called "one of the good ones" by the literal worst people on earth. these people ARE the scum of the earth, going around spreading hate, disinformation, cultural and social rot.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      3 days ago

      That seems to be at the root of it, huh? The liberal idea that by not being like what the fascists say you are, you might get them to listen to you. Maybe a deep desire to avoid existential conflict, or rather to avoid acknowledging it for what it is: inescapable. She seems like she still believes on some level that...I don't know. That this can continue somehow, that fences can be mended this late in the game? That the scope of her focus hasn't been rendered qaint by how much worse and horrifying everything has gotten in the last few years?

    • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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      3 days ago

      I feel like if you have a solid understanding of how your philosophy relates to your politics, you shouldn't have to make stylistic concessions and conformations, like the case here.

      Always claim authority if you're in a position to (and I would certainly expect someone who's been organizing since the 2000s to have that kind of position).

    • spectre [he/him]
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      3 days ago

      This attitude is part of what generated Chapo and the "dirtbag left"

      • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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        3 days ago

        That’s not true at all. The “dirtbag left” was basically just a bunch of people fed up with civility politics of the Liberals, and CTH was very good at skewering freakoid reactionaries in ways that would make Liberals faint. That was the appeal, that people were willing to bite back against reactionaries with polemic and incisive language instead of the boring banality of the Dem Soc wet blankets