https://twitter.com/ashleylynch/status/1349107017152020480

Just for fun, listen to the clip and guess if Matt makes the case for fascism in it.

For extra fun, read the replies

  • LeninsRage [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Matt makes explicitly Marxist arguments that to the uninitiated libs are literally alien. This person certainly has no idea what fascism means or "the left" really wants, so they interpret materialist analysis that these CHUDs had no plan and thus could never have accomplished anything meaningful as "agreeing with fash". This then gets spread around their lame Twitter circle like a game of telephone.

    Again, what would the CHUDs have accomplished if they had simply occupied the Capitol for a prolonged period? The answer is nothing. Merely occupying one building will not magically force the entire apparatus of state to capitulate to your outlandish demands. The only way they could have actually done a coup is if the military then threw in with them, in which case you have much bigger problems than CHUDs in the capital; regardless, there was zero chance of this happening. Meanwhile these same libs were probably falling over themselves to exalt the generals who came out to condemn Trump the other day, zero cognitive dissonance involved.

    • BeanBoy [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      On the pod they brought up that it seems like the protesters’ plan was to appeal to the politicians they thought were sympathetic to them and ask them to do the right thing i.e. just the liberal strategy except a little more chaotic.

      • LeninsRage [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        What "plan" they had was the fantasy that those sympathetic politicians would unilaterally abolish elections, which they don't have the power to do either individually or as a group, and would not do even if they could. Only the military can do that, so they would have had better prospects targeting the Pentagon. So essentially no plan, they were trying to alter reality by willing it into existence.

        • CrimsonSage [any]
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          4 years ago

          To be fair, when actions like this have taken place historically, and been successful, it's because politicians sympathetic to the cause use the momentum to take control. The problem here is that political power is so fractured and diffuse in our system that even if a Ted Cruz or some other ghoul tried, they would have been hammered down by hundreds of other equally powerful figures. The fact that the governors of both MD and VA sent in their state guard against federal law shows the kind of hurtles this strategy has.

    • ant9 [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      It's not the building it's the legislators.

      Only one reason why would attack a legislature like this while it's in session.

      If you look at this as the far right president losing his grip on power and sending his supporters to storm the legislature in hopes of a hostage situation that he controls, then it starts to sounds more like an attempted coup. Massive security failures, obviously sabotaged responses, and finally that same president apparently getting overridden in order to facilitate a better response.

      What's difference between this working and not, some additional military placements and a phone call to Erik Prince to get some pros in the crowd?

      • LeninsRage [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Even if they took a significant number of elite hostages this strategy still relies on the military siding with you.