Yeah I just took a peek at this subreddit and it's very MRA-lite, while still rejecting MRAs. They're recognizing problems of patriarchy, but then complaining that feminists ignore them. I think they take criticism of patriarchy personally and find it confusing that people who aren't men can still uphold and benefit from it.
Honestly the entire subreddit seems to be a product of men harmed by the "men are trash" dialogue that /r/MensLib has been addressing recently. /r/MensLib is overall a good subreddit with occasional outright leftist takes, whereas this one is overtly critical of feminism for not taking Men's issues seriously.
Tbh it does remind me a of a phase I went through where I called myself an "egalitarian" as a way to ally with feminists. It wasn't in bad faith, I just felt genuinely that I didn't belong in feminist spaces for reasons this subreddit seems to be complaining about. So this could be a decent subreddit for pipelining people?
Edit: here's a thread where they discuss MRA/TRP. Not surprisingly, lots of takes that really miss the mark.
Edit2: here's a thread on the recent discourse in the MensLib subreddit regarding "all men are trash". The comments don't seem too optimistic; the top one is literally complaining that trans men are having their voices elevated when someone like them would've been ignored 🤦♂️. There's still some good comments in there too, so it's really a mixed bag of a subreddit.
Yeah I just took a peek at this subreddit and it's very MRA-lite, while still rejecting MRAs. They're recognizing problems of patriarchy, but then complaining that feminists ignore them. I think they take criticism of patriarchy personally and find it confusing that people who aren't men can still uphold and benefit from it.
Honestly the entire subreddit seems to be a product of men harmed by the "men are trash" dialogue that /r/MensLib has been addressing recently. /r/MensLib is overall a good subreddit with occasional outright leftist takes, whereas this one is overtly critical of feminism for not taking Men's issues seriously.
Tbh it does remind me a of a phase I went through where I called myself an "egalitarian" as a way to ally with feminists. It wasn't in bad faith, I just felt genuinely that I didn't belong in feminist spaces for reasons this subreddit seems to be complaining about. So this could be a decent subreddit for pipelining people?
Edit: here's a thread where they discuss MRA/TRP. Not surprisingly, lots of takes that really miss the mark.
Edit2: here's a thread on the recent discourse in the MensLib subreddit regarding "all men are trash". The comments don't seem too optimistic; the top one is literally complaining that trans men are having their voices elevated when someone like them would've been ignored 🤦♂️. There's still some good comments in there too, so it's really a mixed bag of a subreddit.