• BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
    hexbear
    109
    7 months ago

    So the 14 year old can consent to sex but can't he trusted to make good decisions with the resulting 10 million dollars until she's almost finished her bachelor's? What internal logic is this whole thing operating on?

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
      hexbear
      80
      7 months ago

      it's the reactor core of libertarianism: property is more important than people

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
      hexbear
      66
      7 months ago

      What internal logic is this whole thing operating on?

      You start at "I want to bang 14 year olds" and work backwards from there

  • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
    hexbear
    90
    7 months ago

    honestly presenting ethical questions under capitalism in this way makes it abundantly clear why the marketplace is the enemy of humanity. if there is someone who has the means and intent to do something like this, the only acceptable answer is to kill them and redistribute their wealth. nothing else comes even remotely close to solving the problem.

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
      hexbear
      9
      7 months ago

      Furniture and Meat

      The adventure time episode that makes libertarians into communists

  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
    hexbear
    86
    7 months ago

    Let's say a billionaire wants to watch 456 poor people from Korea compete in winner-takes-all blood sports until only one participant is left, that winner receives ₩26.9B. All participants agree. Should this be allowed?

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
    hexbear
    68
    7 months ago

    People who should be legally incapable of giving sexual consent:

    • Minors.
    • Prisoners viz their guards.
    • Anyone considering sleeping with a libertarian.
  • carpoftruth [any, any]
    hexbear
    65
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1720992936052306000

    Link because I'm not a lib

    He's president of this bullshit libertarian antiwoke think tank https://www.cspicenter.com/about

    He is connected to university of Texas and his fellow think tankers are employed at university of London and Cornell among others. This seems like a slam dunk to flag a bunch of people in these august institutions and ruin this asshole's day libertarian-approaching

    Here is the staff page for where Rick is a fellow https://salemcenter.org/our-people/

  • @bdonvr@thelemmy.club
    hexbear
    50
    7 months ago

    "I'll set you up for life if you just let me have sex with you" is coercion no matter the age. You can't consent to that, not when "no" isn't really an option.

  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
    hexbear
    45
    7 months ago

    "Unrelated story, I have ten million dollars and a lawyer on retainer" libertarian-approaching

  • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
    hexbear
    38
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    I've read about this happening in Philippines except its in hundreds or at best thousands of dollars and the girl's "consent" is never involved. Only parents.

    link

    • Judge_Jury [comrade/them, he/him]
      hexbear
      22
      edit-2
      7 months ago
      Wretched of the Earth excerpt

      In its decadent aspect the national bourgeoisie gets considerable help from the Western bourgeoisies who happen to be tourists enamored of exoticism, hunting and casinos. The national bourgeoisie establishes holiday resorts and playgrounds for entertaining the Western bourgeoisie. This sector goes by the name of tourism and becomes a national industry for this very purpose. We only have to look at what has happened in Latin America if we want proof of the way the ex-colonized bourgeoisie can be transformed into "party" organizer. The casinos in Havana and Mexico City, the beaches of Rio, Copacabana, and Acapulco, the young Brazilian and Mexican girls, the thirteen-year-old mestizas, are the scars of this depravation of the national bourgeoisie. Because it is lacking in ideas, because it is inward-looking, cut off from the people, sapped by its congenital incapacity to evaluate issues on the basis of the nation as a whole, the national bourgeoisie assumes the role of manager for the companies of the West and turns its country virtually into a bordello for Europe.

      Once again we need only to look at the pitiful spectacle of certain republics in Latin America. U.S. businessmen, banking magnates and technocrats jet "down to the tropics," and for a week to ten days wallow in the sweet depravity of their private "reserves."

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
        hexbear
        5
        7 months ago

        empire didn't end it was just worked out to be cheaper to outsource colonial oppression to locals

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
      hexbear
      8
      7 months ago

      well anyone willing to pimp their children for millions is probably desperate enough they'll go lower. That's just the free market

      this logic is why the market is evil

    • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]
      hexbear
      33
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      They're trying to first legitimize the child sex-work/exploitation. Then, they can move on to "Who are we to tell the child how much she should accept? If we let the market work and the girl wants to accept 100k, or even just 1k, why should we prevent her from maximizing her utility?"

      They're just trying to use big numbers to motivate the permissability in theory as a "gotcha, now you have to support child sex-work in general" argument. The correct response of course is to beat this person to death as an example.

      • ShareThatBread [he/him, he/him]
        hexbear
        6
        7 months ago

        They’re also using the big number because deep down they know that, as structured now, labour is exploited by capital. So they put the big number place holder in to appeal to people who would take a big dose of exploitation/trauma in order to have a life for free of that after the said event.

        • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]
          hexbear
          7
          edit-2
          7 months ago

          Sure thing! I didn't mean it as a correction but rather an exposition. Feeling grossed out by what's going on here is a perfectly acceptable reaction, but being able to explain it coherently and combat this rhetoric takes some training. Just trying to give comrades a chance to learn.

  • raven [he/him]
    hexbear
    33
    7 months ago

    Should this be allowed

    That a known pedophile should have been given free reign to keep sex trafficking and in fact be given so much power and wealth that he could even theoretically have done this? Yeah it's kinda fucked up that we let it happen.