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  • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    National guardsmen sometimes get deployed overseas.

    Nat. Guards fought protestors at standing rock.

    Nt. guards fought protesters in Ferguson.

    Nat. guards isn't worth it. If you're that desperate for cash, become an accountant or a phlebotomist.

  • InternetLefty [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Fuck off man

    Don't join the imperialist military in any way. You will be used as a tool for the bourgeoise. You will not just be giving up a weekend a month, you will be under a legally binding contract with the government where you can possibly be deployed to put down riots, break strikes, or occupy foreign lands. You will lose your autonomy, in whatever form it currently exists.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    And then they randomly decide to invade Vietnam and all of a sudden you're being ordered to gut kids for daddy capitalism.

  • fed [none/use name]
    hexagon
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    4 years ago

    it appears i may have posted cringe :thonk:

    idk, how does working 2 days a month getting taught basic shit and getting good benefits in your state support imperialism? if you are ever called up just "break" your foot or something lol

    using the tools and knowledge of the empire to weaken it makes sense??

    • Poopfeast420 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Imperialism is where you throw up sandbags when your neighborhood floods

      • InternetLefty [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        You don't need to be in the national guard to do this and then you don't have to gas protestors or turn the gears on the imperialist death machine either

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        If that's your goal, have you considered joining a mutual aid disaster relief org?

    • Dirtbag [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      The nerds dogpiling you are comfortable and/or keyboard warriors. That's like half this site, so don't let it get you down lol

  • gray [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    the national guard is an arm of the state, why the fuck should any of us operate in the interests of the state.

    • fed [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      because you get awesome benefits and don’t actually fucking do anything besides workout and get basic training as a reservist

      the state literally gets nothing from you unless there is an emergency in state, which 7 times out of 10 you are actually doing something good for your local community.

      Ex. Working covid testing sites, giving food and water after a disaster. If they call you to a protest just have a gym “accident”

      • gray [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        While I don't doubt you have good intentions, I think that most people on this board would have moral objections to joining the national guard.

  • MathVelazquez [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    "I don't gas protesters, I just voluntarily support and uphold the system that does. Oh and I get money out of it."

    • fed [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      4 years ago

      bro you pay taxes, you support the system 10x more than a reservist standing around getting paid.

      • MathVelazquez [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        bro you pay taxes

        Big assumption there, lol.

        Live your life, OP, but you really can't see a difference between taxes being forced upon you and joining the national guard of your own free will. And and recrooting for them for free is pretty cringe.

        • fed [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          i literally can't see any issue with being a STATE national guard reservist. the gov gives you up to 600 bucks a month and 50k in debt relief for 2 days a month of exercise and training.

          you aren't doing anything but collecting a check and learning military tactics and how to deal with national disasters. you aren't doing anything to support imperialism or the military's foreign agenda

  • keter_propotkin2 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    i considered it for all the reasons you're stating

    but there's a serious risk of getting deployed if another major war breaks out. unfortunately fuck that.

  • Dirtbag [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    you knew this was going to set off the armchair leftists here right? right? This shit isn't fucking ideal, but if you don't have another option then fuck it. Better than straight up fully enlisting.

    • InternetLefty [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I would agree with this, but caution you that if you can avoid it, you should. Some people in this country are all but forced into it because of their economic situation.