Yeah I know people on Twitter and Facebook and everything are ignorant too but what specifically about Redditors makes them obnoxiously liberal? The average Facebook user is like 65 and they grew up huffing lead and being told they were gonna get nuked by commies so obviously they're gonna be psychotic and the cringiest Twitter users are usually some type of bougie 40 year old.

  • Barabas [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Every now and then I go back and check any non-niche sub and it is painful. I also have a masochistic urge to go and check in on SRD every now and then and every damn thread is shitting on "tankies" (tankies here meaning anyone to the left of Tony Blair).

    Tankies are really antagonistic towards people for no reason. I saw people on I think r/therightcantmeme saying that AOC isn’t a real leftist. It’s like how are you gonna attack one of the most left leaning politicians in the US for not being able to do much? This is what happens when you don’t know enough about politics I guess

    :kermit-pain:

    • spectre [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It is kind of true that a lot of lefties are overly abrasive when they're talking to liberals. I definitely understand that it's frustrating and can't fault them too much though. It would be nice if people were better at propagandizing at the same time. I honestly blame Twitter for most of it, since it fosters "dunking", "clapbacks", and whatever other equivalent of a virtual political bumper sticker is. It's all incredibly toxic and has nothing to do with actually getting people to understand what you're about.

      • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Part of this "overly abrasive when talking to liberals" thing is not knowing whether a person on the internet is persuadable, unpersuadable but at least earnest, or just outright fucking with you. Another part of it is the lib habit of treating incivility as a sin, but treating reprehensible ideas as somehow necessary for the existence of a free society.

        • spectre [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          not knowing whether a person on the internet is persuadable, unpersuadable but at least earnest, or just outright fucking with you

          I'd say that figuring this out is tricky, and a valuable skill. I think that if you want to be effective at getting through to people (this isn't everyone's objective of course), it's better to drop conversations than get hostile, unless you've already started to "win the crowd" so to speak. If you're talking to libs on their home turf, there's absolutely going to be a lot of bs to contend with. The way I see it, the key is to be tactical and get people to eventually move on to a space (could be Hexbear.net or otherwise) where you can really push them a bit harder.

          The best thing that can happen is that you win over the "voters" which will make you look good to the "lurkers". The person you are directly replying to is almost irrelevant to the whole thing.

          • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            The best thing that can happen is that you win over the “voters” which will make you look good to the “lurkers”. The person you are directly replying to is almost irrelevant to the whole thing.

            Hard to stress this point enough.