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    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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      4 years ago

      i mean, its a surveillance state

      we like to circlejerk about how good china is, and while it does do some things better than our western governments, the level of control it has over its citizens compared to ours is quite drastic from what i gathered talking to my language partner

      something's always gotta give, and if you value freedom and privacy, you're probably better off elsewhere

      • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        freedom to what? You couldn't claim we have more of either than they do. how many people have you heared about getting arrested or fired for facebook comments?

        • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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          4 years ago

          an example that left an impression of me was when i asked her some stuff about her government and she said she has to be careful what she types because certain words about the topic might get her wechat account frozen

          thats not that big of a deal on its own but it still made me go "oh damn"

          i like china, the reason im learning the language is that i wanna go there, but i would not call it as "free" as western countries, for better and for worse

          keep in mind, this control it has allowed it to contain the pandemic much better too

            • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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              4 years ago

              Agreed, honestly. The insane amount of damage that has been done through the unregulated internet recently has made me understood the heavy restrictions, but it’s still always worrying that you have to rely on the people in charge having good intentions.

          • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            again, i was banned from facebook for posting the all men are trash meme. We have no more freedom than them. we are just accustomed to the ways in which we are unfree

          • marie [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            no. you are parroting CIA propaganda. stop.

            • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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              4 years ago

              im not parroting CIA propaganda I'm saying what I learned from my language partner who literally lives in China

              • marie [she/her]
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                4 years ago

                Are you just going to pretend that the western country you live in isn't even worse about your supposed privacy?

                You have no problem pointing out how China is supposedly a surveillance state yet you live in one and remain silent on that.

                • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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                  4 years ago

                  I‘m sorry how much do you know about my country‘s surveillance and how much do you know about China‘s?

                • disco [any]
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                  4 years ago

                  Why would she be talking about the US surveillance state in a thread about China?