Noname: "leftists should organize the majority of their colonialist nations and stop fixating on marginalized people"

British class traitor Breadtuber: "You're just trying to stop the revolution by pointing out I'm a LARPer who never talks to the working class and is just doing paternalist liberalism with woke socialist characteristics. Telling me to organize the vast majority of workers??? What a convenient narrative!"

she's one of the dumbest people on the left, props to Peter Coffin for leaving that podcast.

radlib "left" media attracts a lot of mediocre people because it is so easy to get clout and you don't have to be intelligent or talented to gain credibility. All you have to do is fervently sell party lines and have a histrionic/ infantile personality.

if I was a pretentious British opportunist, I would not make tweets like this because they would clearly apply to myself as an illiterate Breadtuber failure.

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    But on what planet is the goal to have solidarity with all White people? Obviously there is a ton of organizing and radicalizing to do within White communities, but that's not the same thing as saying these groups have to be totally separate. That's not even possible, because the most integrated parts of American society are working class jobs and neighborhoods.

    The issue here is not saying White leftists have to do personal development or that they need to organize White people. The issue is the framing that Black and White workers can't come together until there are no more racists. That's completely idealistic and ignores how the most effective has always been done historically.

    • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      The point is to have an equilibrium or a tipping point in the ratio between White People and White Left Radicals. There are more Whites than there are Black and Hispanic people. And Whiteness is a concept that amalgamates downtrodden "White" looking people when convenient. So you have to make whiteness toxic in general for everyone.

      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        In what way is that at all what noname is saying? She said unity is meaningless, which is absolute bullshit. You don't have to do this work making her bad tweets sound good. And how about the fact the most effective way to dismantle racism among individual White people is through a shared cause with Black people?

        Here's a major issue I have with this personally: I'm White and live and work in mixed-race environments. If I want to engage with my community, then that means organizing with Black people. Those are my coworkers and neighbors. Noname, however, has declared that forbidden, because White people in distant suburbs are too racist. The on the ground reality is that, in many places where workers are, racial integration is the state of things.

        • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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          4 years ago

          In what way is that at all what noname is saying?

          Unity with black people is meaningless as long as the masses of white people are indoctrinated into White Supremacy and liberalism.

          • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            But she's wrong, even with that generous interpretation. Unity with my Black neighbors is not meaningless. We have shared problems. If we want to improve the schools in our area, or transit, or environmental issues, should we not work together?

            • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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              4 years ago

              I think she is primarily speaking about white leftists trying to vie for positions of leadership or fear of cooptation of Black Movements. That's why I'm not hostile to her take, it is a legitimate take.

                • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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                  4 years ago

                  Twitter sucks man. I read her shit all the time and she is an active organizer which is why I think I know where the fuck she is coming from; I could be wrong.

                  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    4 years ago

                    I think noname is mostly legit, I said so in another comment on here. This is just a bad tweet that feeds into a very liberal understanding of race relations (or a weird cross section between liberals and people who have only read Settlers).