I'm not even picking some random libertarian to make fun of, this dude is a scholar at Cato

  • gayhobbes [he/him]
    hexagon
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    4 years ago

    Where does he think that $15k a year comes from? Oh right, tax payers. And what's taxation? Theft. Fucking can't even keep their own ideology consistent in a goddamn elevator pitch.

    • RegentOfLucetia [any]
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      4 years ago

      The only ideologically consistent libertarians are ancaps (lol), the others just pick and choose which government spending is theft or not.

        • Owl [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          That's not a contradiction; ancaps believe that the enforcement of private property can also be privatized. You have to dig a little deeper. But I promise it'll be worth it, because the conclusion is even dumber.

          Privatizing enforcement is allowed in anarcho capitalism. At which point someone's private army can enforce whatever contract terms they want on whoever has a weaker one. Which can be anything, because a contract can be anything that people consent two without government coercion ("agree to my terms in exchange for not being mowed down by my army" is a fair contract (lol)). So a large private army could enforce exactly the body of law of, say, the US government, and that's okay in ancapistan.

          And that's the real contradiction of anarcho capitalism - it permits all possible governments, yet somehow is supposed to be opposed to the form of government we have now.

          • KillSlaveOwners [they/them]
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            4 years ago

            What is a government if not a bloated private army that has laid claim over a land by contract

          • Necco [any]
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            4 years ago

            Mods how do I save a comment

            • Owl [he/him]
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              4 years ago
              1. Click the vertical ... menu on the comment

              2. Click the star

              3. View your profile then choose the saved tab, there it is!

              4. View anyone else's profile then choose the saved tab. There it is too! Wait what?

              5. Aren't you a mod?

              6. No mods no masters.

            • Maquis_IT [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I just clicked the star button. It turned orange but I don't know if it saved it. I'll keep you posted.

          • ButtFungus [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            agree to my terms in exchange for not being mowed down by my army

            No, see, this is impossible, because everyone has to follow the NAP

            • Owl [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Raising a private army needs a lot of money, and the largest private army (the one that gets to dictate terms) will be the most expensive. That money comes from the profit from voluntary transactions; if the people participating in these transactions did not want there to be a giant private army they would not trade with the giant-private-army-haver. Thus by virtue of the fact that someone has a giant private army, we can conclude that the majority of people consent to this state of affairs. So there's no violation of the NAP, you got into this situation via a series of voluntary transactions.

              (lol.)

        • gayhobbes [he/him]
          hexagon
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          4 years ago

          Private property is an artificial construct which requires a state to maintain it.

          That's not true, you could easily let your feudal lord have sexual congress with whomever in your household, his abundant choice of marijuana products, or petroleum in exchange for his mercy.

          The ass, grass, or gas doctrine if you will.

        • RegentOfLucetia [any]
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          4 years ago

          Definitely, Ancapistan would be a literal dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.