If you can live without being exploited that's a good thing. For most people it's also either due to disability of some variety or the stage they are in life or just shit luck. Capitalism requires this sort of surplus population to continue more and more, most wage labor isn't even productive labor in the first place. There is no shame in not working. People in prison technically count as NEET. Most of the unemployed would love the chance to become the proletariat because even if your labor is exploited for a wage, it's still regular income. In a mostly service economy where jobs pay jack shit and there's less and less whatever weird thing Marx had with the 'lumpenproletariat' is just no longer relevant, he got most stuff right but jobs are different now.
Jobs aren't different, the division of labor has just shifted. Labor becomes more automated and populations rise which leads to a labor surplus and security of capitalism. Also, the proletariat is by no means the majority of the working/laboring class. Even in 1917, the proles were a minority.
They're just the class with the most revolutionary potential, which has kinda shifted now because of universal education/literacy and the internet. Marx basically just saw that the proles were really good at self governance and formation of councils/unions which made them ideal for creating democratic replacement for the existing bourgeois state.
Yeah, I know. If it weren't the fact that nobody will ever date me while I'm a NEET (and living at home), I wouldn't give a fuck, I could find my own things to do with my time
hate to be a NEET
but honestly it is still better than working, even though most people would considered me a second-tier human or something
If you can live without being exploited that's a good thing. For most people it's also either due to disability of some variety or the stage they are in life or just shit luck. Capitalism requires this sort of surplus population to continue more and more, most wage labor isn't even productive labor in the first place. There is no shame in not working. People in prison technically count as NEET. Most of the unemployed would love the chance to become the proletariat because even if your labor is exploited for a wage, it's still regular income. In a mostly service economy where jobs pay jack shit and there's less and less whatever weird thing Marx had with the 'lumpenproletariat' is just no longer relevant, he got most stuff right but jobs are different now.
Jobs aren't different, the division of labor has just shifted. Labor becomes more automated and populations rise which leads to a labor surplus and security of capitalism. Also, the proletariat is by no means the majority of the working/laboring class. Even in 1917, the proles were a minority.
They're just the class with the most revolutionary potential, which has kinda shifted now because of universal education/literacy and the internet. Marx basically just saw that the proles were really good at self governance and formation of councils/unions which made them ideal for creating democratic replacement for the existing bourgeois state.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I meant but written better.
Yeah, I know. If it weren't the fact that nobody will ever date me while I'm a NEET (and living at home), I wouldn't give a fuck, I could find my own things to do with my time