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    • BezosDied [any]
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      4 years ago

      Proletarians didn’t do the things you’re describing, and that’s what he’s alluding to.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        The American people bear some responsibility for America's crimes just as the German people bore some responsibility for Nazi crimes.

        The sooner the American proletariat realize that, the sooner they can start to atone for their crimes.

        • BezosDied [any]
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          4 years ago

          I’m not saying you’re wrong, but is there something that fundamentally distinguishes the US proletariat from the colonial European and Japanese proletariats? Or that makes them “worse” than the collaborating bourgeoise in colonized countries?

          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Personally, I put the proletariat of settler colonies in a different category from (in your example) European and Japanese proletarians.

            The genocide of native peoples underlies the existence of settler colonies in a way that it does not for proletarians living in bourgeois "homelands". In other words, you can remove colonialism and genocide from the histories of Europe and Japan, both places would still exist in a similar sense. Remove said crimes from American or Australian history and both would cease to exist in the same sense.

            This makes the proletariat of settler colonies much more resistant to the idea of revolutionary justice because for true justice to be done, their countries must cease to exist.

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I'm not the US government. I hate the US government and I will cherish its destruction tbh.

        • blobjim [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Something they wrote:

          We’ve been squandering friendships in the region for decades

          I have not been "squandering friendships in the region" nor has zifnab25.

          When I see the US government do something, I do not in any way feel I have a part in that even if I benefit from it. There is no part of me that has a shared headspace or agenda or anything with any person in the ruling class of this country. When they do something I see it as the American 'regime' doing something, not "we". If your goal is to end these institutions, they are not "we".