This goes for every anarchist i've actually met. Reddit "anarchists" have so little to do with irl anarchist praxis that i feel bad calling them anarchists even when i use scare quotes.
One time a reddit anarchist told me that green day were the best anticapitalist band. Even a fed wouldn't be stupid enough to say that; hating green day is the biggest requirement to be an anarchist
There's a few Green Day songs that are guilty pleasures of mine. They're always goofy as fuck, and swerved way too hard into stadium rock bs later on, but they didn't only get so big because they're cringy pop sellouts, they also always had a rhythm section that fucking bops. The bass and drums on Dookie are amazing and if i get the wall for saying that, then do your duty, comrades.
Haha nah there's nothing wrong with liking Green Day. Their first few albums are really good and they really connected with the sort of aimless feeling in young people in America at the time. It's kind of a meme to rag on them in punk circles because they got mainstream popularity and an image of being this mad subversive band with some of the most milquetoast, myopic anti-war music ever and if there's one thing punks love it's saying things aren't real punk.
He was super anti anprim btw. He said tribal societies had heirarchy and that noble savage is a derp, but that is still a more fulfilling way to live, and I tend to think he was basically right on this particular point.
Like I always say, if anprims mean to form voluntary communes that is fine, any attempt to impose or spread anprim I am HIGHLY OPPOSED to, basically as an individual ideology its fine but as a societal one I see far too much danger for causing suffering for disabled comrades or anyone otherwise needing modern medicine and other such developments.
Edit: Also while I've certainly met good anprim comrades on here, I've also met anprims in other places who entirely dismiss the concerns about disabled or trans comrades with arguments to the effect of "Well in primitive societies disabled people were taken care of" as if personal agency and ability to act on your own is not to value, and that there would be no dysphoria to treat with HRT or surgery "Because dysphoria comes from societys stereotypes about women, in a primitive society you would just be a woman without need to dress such or change yourself to fit society" which while probably not any kind of majority opinion among anprims, has severely soured me on anarcho-primitivisms ability to actually resolve these issues without just being a commune that you would leave to fix these things.
From their framework it makes sense, just as you cant just make a communist commune and never engage with capitalism, you also cant just make a primitivist commune and never engage with capitalism or society either.
Then wether or not you think their end goal makes any sense is another question but I dont think this in particular is a dunk.
I assume the idea is that you literally cant avoid exposure to technology unless you want to just literally die so its not like its amplifying any harm to try and spread their ideas using the technology forced onto them.
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Every anprim I’ve actually met has been fuckin awesome, we love our anprim comrades :anprim-pat:
This goes for every anarchist i've actually met. Reddit "anarchists" have so little to do with irl anarchist praxis that i feel bad calling them anarchists even when i use scare quotes.
One time a reddit anarchist told me that green day were the best anticapitalist band. Even a fed wouldn't be stupid enough to say that; hating green day is the biggest requirement to be an anarchist
There's a few Green Day songs that are guilty pleasures of mine. They're always goofy as fuck, and swerved way too hard into stadium rock bs later on, but they didn't only get so big because they're cringy pop sellouts, they also always had a rhythm section that fucking bops. The bass and drums on Dookie are amazing and if i get the wall for saying that, then do your duty, comrades.
Haha nah there's nothing wrong with liking Green Day. Their first few albums are really good and they really connected with the sort of aimless feeling in young people in America at the time. It's kind of a meme to rag on them in punk circles because they got mainstream popularity and an image of being this mad subversive band with some of the most milquetoast, myopic anti-war music ever and if there's one thing punks love it's saying things aren't real punk.
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Aside from :a-guy: I thought Anarcho-Primitivism was basically a meme. Are there any unironic anprims here?
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The only anprims I've met irl were boomers who just really wanted to smoke weed. Big fan
He was super anti anprim btw. He said tribal societies had heirarchy and that noble savage is a derp, but that is still a more fulfilling way to live, and I tend to think he was basically right on this particular point.
Like I always say, if anprims mean to form voluntary communes that is fine, any attempt to impose or spread anprim I am HIGHLY OPPOSED to, basically as an individual ideology its fine but as a societal one I see far too much danger for causing suffering for disabled comrades or anyone otherwise needing modern medicine and other such developments.
Edit: Also while I've certainly met good anprim comrades on here, I've also met anprims in other places who entirely dismiss the concerns about disabled or trans comrades with arguments to the effect of "Well in primitive societies disabled people were taken care of" as if personal agency and ability to act on your own is not to value, and that there would be no dysphoria to treat with HRT or surgery "Because dysphoria comes from societys stereotypes about women, in a primitive society you would just be a woman without need to dress such or change yourself to fit society" which while probably not any kind of majority opinion among anprims, has severely soured me on anarcho-primitivisms ability to actually resolve these issues without just being a commune that you would leave to fix these things.
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From their framework it makes sense, just as you cant just make a communist commune and never engage with capitalism, you also cant just make a primitivist commune and never engage with capitalism or society either.
Then wether or not you think their end goal makes any sense is another question but I dont think this in particular is a dunk.
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I assume the idea is that you literally cant avoid exposure to technology unless you want to just literally die so its not like its amplifying any harm to try and spread their ideas using the technology forced onto them.