• MarxMadness [comrade/them]
    hexagon
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    4 years ago

    Let's start with this:

    1. Every police killing is presumptively wrong.
    2. All other options should be exhausted before the cops start shooting. And yes, this includes pigs putting themselves in danger (that's the job) and risking a bystander possibly being injured.
    3. There are countries where beat cops don't carry guns at all, and cops in those countries also deal with these situations.

    Now let's go through those one by one for this situation:

    1. We have about 10 seconds of police video. We don't have anything close to the full story, and we should assume cops are releasing information that seems to justify their actions and withholding information that would call it into question. If anyone thinks 10 seconds of body cam footage is enough to say this killing was 100% justified, I just don't know what to tell you.
    2. Where was the taser? Where was the pepper spray? Where was taking a few steps forward and restraining a literal child? Why was a gun the very first option, especially in a situation where the cop could have easily killed both people?
    3. If police in other countries can handle this situation without immediately shooting somebody, why are we tolerating this?
    • lilpissbaby [any]
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      edit-2
      4 years ago

      We have about 10 seconds of police video.

      Which is the entire situation! The footage goes from the cop getting to the scene, leaving his car and shooting the girl. What else is there to see?

      Neither the taser or pepper spray will instantly stop someone, especially when they are about to assault someone with a knife. Four shots seems excessive, but shooting someone who's about to potentially murder someone else doesn't feel like it should be something that people focus on when criticizing the police.

      edit: i just realized i don't care enough to argue over this. fuck cops. using this as an example of poor police work is counterproductive though.

        • lilpissbaby [any]
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          4 years ago

          do you really not see the difference between harming someone harming others and letting someone defenseless get harmed?
          getting stabbed several times is very likely to get you killed too

          • stevaloo [they/them, she/her]
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            edit-2
            4 years ago

            Because those 4 bullets definitely couldn't have hit somebody else, like the person directly behind her

      • SuperRed [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        " i just realized i don’t care enough to argue over this. fuck cops. using this as an example of poor police work is counterproductive though." This, once we start using shitty flimsy examples of how pigs suck our position falls short and movements lose credibility, comrades falling for an obvious trap.