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  • MathVelazquez [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Chen is smart, not only was that a dunk but it appeals to Bernie's sense of self-importance. And Chen might also literally be right that (unfortunately) Bernie is the single best positioned person not in Biden's admin to slow a Cold War from brewing.

    • toledosequel [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      How? Sanders isn't part of any foreign policy committee and he barely made the dems sweat on the $15 minimum wage.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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        4 years ago

        Are we just forgetting that Bernie's whole thing of "Not Me, Us" was about building dual power? Dual power that he mothballed the second the caved to the establishment. He absolutely had the opportunity to maintain that movement and use it to put massive amounts of social pressure on Biden.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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            4 years ago

            Exactly, which makes this dunk correct. Honestly Chen is maybe giving him too much credit and still thinking he can regain that political capital that he just vaporized when he dropped out.

        • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          Bernie’s whole thing of “Not Me, Us” was about building dual power?

          This is wishful thinking. He never said anything to this effect, and was very transparent the whole time (dating back to 2016) about playing the electoral game straight up. He was never ever ever going to break away from the Democratic Party and try to establish some leftist organization. Anyone could have seen this after he chose to ran in the Democratic primaries and/or after he campaigned for Hillary after he lost the first time around.

          Make of his strategy what you will, but don't imagine it was something it never claimed to be and then get mad at him for betraying a fiction.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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            4 years ago

            Then he's absolute garbage lol, fuck him for doing something good and backing off because he's an electoralist.

            Chen is absolutely right when he said that Bernie could have stopped this. He could have but chose not to and I will in fact blame him because he's willfully not being part of the solution and even misleading people into thinking he's something more than he was.

            Also bro, you need to chill with the incredibly liberal and reactive defense of imperialist garbage. I'm tired of having these conversations with you.

            • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              incredibly liberal and reactive defense of imperialist garbage

              yeah get the fuck out of here

      • Vncredleader
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        4 years ago

        Yeah that's the sad thing. Both can be true

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Right, it's not a straight up slam, he's trying to appeal to Bernie's better angels.