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Though he did clarify they don't have a worse police state than the US. He just both-sides it.

Edit - It's a law of hexbear that every discussion must turn into a struggle session. Especially if the discussion involves China.

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I would disagree, I think it is moving that way but very very slowly and not anywhere near enough.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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        4 years ago

        On the contrary, I think China has actually taken a very dialectical approach to the progression of socialism.

        Socialism is the inevitable conclusion of capitalist production. They had some slip ups in the 90s, but the current direction has taken a very sharp turn away from those policies and back to the path. The state still maintains control over all land rights and the only really bad thing is the codification of property right into the constitution (even if it's collective, state, and private with heavy restrictions on the last).

        That's not something that can't be changed though, and it seems as though the general movement in China is to begin nationalizing all the industry currently privatized right now. In order to do that without being totally cut off from the global markets though, they have to create a medium of exchange that dethrones the petro-dollar or financial imperialism of the US will be used to destroy them the same way it did the USSR.

        It's a really boring play and not as cool as 1917 or Paris, but it shows how socialism has grown and adapted to rapidly changing conditions of production and the acceleration of turnover. Dethroning the US empire in their own game will basically be the death knell of international capitalism as we know it. The pressure on revolutions in colonized territories will dissapate and we'll start seeing a new wave of revolutions around the world like we did in the beginning of the 20th century.

        Possibly even some in China as the need for this type of state disappears with the death of the US empire.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]M
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            4 years ago

            This threatens the dollar over the long term," in an article that described the digital yuan as "a re-imagination of money that could shake a pillar of American power."

            It's absolutely at least one of the reasons. I think since the 20th century, there's actually been a kinda devolution of capitalism into its more primitive commercial form. Or at least a resurgence of commercial capital as a more powerful force with international banking and dominance of the petro dollar as global reserve currency.