I enjoyed it, but you probably wont hear any new ideas from either, the debate doesn't move beyond the very fundamental ideas of socialism and capitalism, probably because destiny repeatedly says "He doesn't understand" the definitions economists and socialists use, because he's trying desperately to smuggle a premise. you get some pretty clear examples of Destiny's style of manipulation just falling flat on a more academic and intelligent guest. For example 17:34, He tries to assigns a belief to Wolff which Wolff doesn't even remotely suggest during the previous 17 minutes, and he crumples when Wolff immediately calls him out. from what I know of destiny, it's usually not as flagrant when he's acting dishonestly.
Destiny is doing the Equivalent of shouting "Is Georgia part of Europe" at a geographer, and then getting mad when he gets an answer explaining there are different ways of defining Europe's eastern border, and why historically these exist and how some people even reject the concept and would say it is part of a continent called Eurasia. Destiny says "OMG I asked a very simple yes/no, why are you contrasting What is in Europe with what isn't in Europe and explaining how something historically developed, why don't you tell me what you think it is instead of saying what some 19th century cartographer thought" which of course he's not going to do since that's not in his authority to say, and understanding the subject requires teaching the nuance and overlap.
I enjoyed it, but you probably wont hear any new ideas from either, the debate doesn't move beyond the very fundamental ideas of socialism and capitalism, probably because destiny repeatedly says "He doesn't understand" the definitions economists and socialists use, because he's trying desperately to smuggle a premise. you get some pretty clear examples of Destiny's style of manipulation just falling flat on a more academic and intelligent guest. For example 17:34, He tries to assigns a belief to Wolff which Wolff doesn't even remotely suggest during the previous 17 minutes, and he crumples when Wolff immediately calls him out. from what I know of destiny, it's usually not as flagrant when he's acting dishonestly.
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Destiny is doing the Equivalent of shouting "Is Georgia part of Europe" at a geographer, and then getting mad when he gets an answer explaining there are different ways of defining Europe's eastern border, and why historically these exist and how some people even reject the concept and would say it is part of a continent called Eurasia. Destiny says "OMG I asked a very simple yes/no, why are you contrasting What is in Europe with what isn't in Europe and explaining how something historically developed, why don't you tell me what you think it is instead of saying what some 19th century cartographer thought" which of course he's not going to do since that's not in his authority to say, and understanding the subject requires teaching the nuance and overlap.