I mostly love Space Odyssey because of how idiosyncratic it is. "You mean you want to make a three hour long film, you want to spend 12 million dollars*, and the script has FIVE MINUTES OF DIALOGUE????????" It just strikes me as the kind of project which is utterly impossible under Capitalism. The visuals are cool, and rather than trying to jam a narrative down the viewer's throat, it is open-ended and somewhat thought provoking. They screened it locally in 2018 for the 50th anniversary and it was pretty cool to see on the big screen.
* 12 million dollars in 1968 would be 94 million dollars today. That's more than the $93M budget for Fellowship Of The Ring. :agony:
Strangelove is hilarious and I think it almost perfectly translates to modern day humor, albeit you do lose something if you don't understand the cold war context at the time.
My dad loves Space Odyssey, he saw it in the theater. He can't articulate why though, he just says when he saw it it was unlike anything he'd ever seen before. I think that's a lot of the appeal to folks who saw it when it came out, it was just so groundbreaking, probably in a way that no movie since has been able to do.
Space Odyssey is the one I haven't gotten yet. It's especially weird because I love sci fi. I think it's just a generational thing since it clearly influenced a lot of stuff I love. I think I'll get there in time because I didn't really get some of his other films right away and most of my sci fi loving friends dog on me for it lol.
I don't know whether to blame Kubrick's directing / screenwtiting or Clarke's original story but the whole thing is just so goddamn dull. I mean I am a product of the 2000s so maybe my attention span is just too stunted, but it bores me to tears every time I try to watch it.
Right! I honestly have no gripe with any of that stuff. I think it's wonderfully shot and I find it conceptually compelling. It's definitely ambitious, maybe to a fault. You're right though, I find it pretty dull. Every time I try it loses my attention and then I can't get back into it. But I really think if I was in the right mood, like a really attentive mood, it might click?
The only time I genuinely enjoyed Space Odyssey is when I watched it high and on a hit and a half of acid. And even them I had to take breaks in the middle of it just to clear my head.
Haha I was honestly thinking about how that would be the way to do it. It seems like the kind of movie that would really engage me on acid. One time I watched Birdman on like half a hit, and I liked the movie beforehand, but after that experience I thought it was the best movie of all time for like a week.
The parts with humans are ok but jesus does the monke scene take forever. First time I attempted to watch it I just gave up and didn't bother with it for several years
Agreed. There is entirely too much monke. Like I get what Clarke is going for; evolution isn't over and humans are still dumb chimps compared to the space bbys, but my god.
Yes
Edit: Dr. Strangelove is dope. Really I just hate Space Odyssey
I mostly love Space Odyssey because of how idiosyncratic it is. "You mean you want to make a three hour long film, you want to spend 12 million dollars*, and the script has FIVE MINUTES OF DIALOGUE????????" It just strikes me as the kind of project which is utterly impossible under Capitalism. The visuals are cool, and rather than trying to jam a narrative down the viewer's throat, it is open-ended and somewhat thought provoking. They screened it locally in 2018 for the 50th anniversary and it was pretty cool to see on the big screen.
* 12 million dollars in 1968 would be 94 million dollars today. That's more than the $93M budget for Fellowship Of The Ring. :agony:
OK, but it's also less than half of the budget of any of The Hobbit films.
The original Lord of the Rings Trilogy didn't have massive budgets. It was a weird property and an untested director.
Strangelove is hilarious and I think it almost perfectly translates to modern day humor, albeit you do lose something if you don't understand the cold war context at the time.
My dad loves Space Odyssey, he saw it in the theater. He can't articulate why though, he just says when he saw it it was unlike anything he'd ever seen before. I think that's a lot of the appeal to folks who saw it when it came out, it was just so groundbreaking, probably in a way that no movie since has been able to do.
I actually watched Strangelove recently and it's shocking how modern it feels.
The film is nearly 60 years old and it feels like it could have been made this decade.
Space Odyssey is the one I haven't gotten yet. It's especially weird because I love sci fi. I think it's just a generational thing since it clearly influenced a lot of stuff I love. I think I'll get there in time because I didn't really get some of his other films right away and most of my sci fi loving friends dog on me for it lol.
I don't know whether to blame Kubrick's directing / screenwtiting or Clarke's original story but the whole thing is just so goddamn dull. I mean I am a product of the 2000s so maybe my attention span is just too stunted, but it bores me to tears every time I try to watch it.
Right! I honestly have no gripe with any of that stuff. I think it's wonderfully shot and I find it conceptually compelling. It's definitely ambitious, maybe to a fault. You're right though, I find it pretty dull. Every time I try it loses my attention and then I can't get back into it. But I really think if I was in the right mood, like a really attentive mood, it might click?
The only time I genuinely enjoyed Space Odyssey is when I watched it high and on a hit and a half of acid. And even them I had to take breaks in the middle of it just to clear my head.
Haha I was honestly thinking about how that would be the way to do it. It seems like the kind of movie that would really engage me on acid. One time I watched Birdman on like half a hit, and I liked the movie beforehand, but after that experience I thought it was the best movie of all time for like a week.
I enjoyed the books a lot but it was a while ago...
The parts with humans are ok but jesus does the monke scene take forever. First time I attempted to watch it I just gave up and didn't bother with it for several years
Agreed. There is entirely too much monke. Like I get what Clarke is going for; evolution isn't over and humans are still dumb chimps compared to the space bbys, but my god.