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Controversial opinion yet no argument given in the OP. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
These takes are shitty enough to start working on that dsIIIplayer account
I think a movie could change your perspective on something in a couple hours. Especially stuff based on real life. I think media about the state of america's healthcare industry have been quite compelling and I've heard about them radicalizing people to an extent. Dallas Buyers Club, Breaking Bad, etc.
Yeah I know, but it's the general theme that I was going for. Films about real life stuff definitely have the capacity to change minds.
Yeah, I definitely agree that every viewer projects their preconcieved worldview onto the movies they watch. That's why there's so many white guys who misguidedly love The Joker, or Fight Club, or American Psycho, or Wolf Of Wall street... etc etc. I suppose to each of us 'change minds' means something different. You're right that no one is getting flipped by a film, but you can still be influenced by it.
Films can still inform though - I've watched some films with family members over the years where they'd get to the end and say that they couldnt believe that something like that was going on in the world right now/happened in the past. Beasts Of No Nation about the child soldiers, plenty of civil rights focused films, stuff about Native Americans. I'll go back to the breaking bad example - my family isn't american - my mother used to vote for the Tories in Britain. I found out she'd watched and enjoyed Breaking Bad, so I linked it to how the Tories are trying to privatise our NHS, and basically said that Heisenberg could be her some day. She had a bit of a revelation and seems to have flipped sides.
In regards to 2001: A Space Odyssey:I think it was actually somewhat stunning at the time for the "lightshow" sort of scene near the end. It also has some extremely cool space "photography" and the classical music is cool. And HAL is a cool part of the plot too. And so is the obelisk! Really it just has a lot of cool theme-ery, from what I remember it's just how little seems to happen and how little dialogue there is that's annoying. There's also sequel that I think was good (?) (it actually has dialogue and plot) but which I remember almost nothing about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ch5WC54egU
Kubrick is interesting because of how obsessed he was. In an age where studios are very controlling its nice to watch a movie where you know it's more or less exactly what the director wanted to show you, rather than what the studio let them get away with.
I don't think he had any particular grudge against actors, just felt a kind of entitlement as a director to dictate stuff, he would usually set aside extra time when shooting as well so that he could do the infamous whatever many takes until he felt that the take was right for the movie and he refused to just settle for something he didnt feel was right.
The guy himself claims that the "hundreds" of takes was an exaggeration by actors and that it never got above 2 digits but its a little he said she said, eyes wide shut I havent watched so I'm not sure if he did something like that on purpose or if it was just a really weird film to get the vibes right for.
Yes, but also No.
Not the best ever, but one of the best and most influential ones.
Yeah, but that's just cause he isn't like, god. His filmography is mostly good and a few are Really Good.
Yes
Edit: Dr. Strangelove is dope. Really I just hate Space Odyssey
I mostly love Space Odyssey because of how idiosyncratic it is. "You mean you want to make a three hour long film, you want to spend 12 million dollars*, and the script has FIVE MINUTES OF DIALOGUE????????" It just strikes me as the kind of project which is utterly impossible under Capitalism. The visuals are cool, and rather than trying to jam a narrative down the viewer's throat, it is open-ended and somewhat thought provoking. They screened it locally in 2018 for the 50th anniversary and it was pretty cool to see on the big screen.
* 12 million dollars in 1968 would be 94 million dollars today. That's more than the $93M budget for Fellowship Of The Ring. :agony:
The original Lord of the Rings Trilogy didn't have massive budgets. It was a weird property and an untested director.
OK, but it's also less than half of the budget of any of The Hobbit films.
Strangelove is hilarious and I think it almost perfectly translates to modern day humor, albeit you do lose something if you don't understand the cold war context at the time.
My dad loves Space Odyssey, he saw it in the theater. He can't articulate why though, he just says when he saw it it was unlike anything he'd ever seen before. I think that's a lot of the appeal to folks who saw it when it came out, it was just so groundbreaking, probably in a way that no movie since has been able to do.
I actually watched Strangelove recently and it's shocking how modern it feels.
The film is nearly 60 years old and it feels like it could have been made this decade.
Space Odyssey is the one I haven't gotten yet. It's especially weird because I love sci fi. I think it's just a generational thing since it clearly influenced a lot of stuff I love. I think I'll get there in time because I didn't really get some of his other films right away and most of my sci fi loving friends dog on me for it lol.
I don't know whether to blame Kubrick's directing / screenwtiting or Clarke's original story but the whole thing is just so goddamn dull. I mean I am a product of the 2000s so maybe my attention span is just too stunted, but it bores me to tears every time I try to watch it.
The parts with humans are ok but jesus does the monke scene take forever. First time I attempted to watch it I just gave up and didn't bother with it for several years
Agreed. There is entirely too much monke. Like I get what Clarke is going for; evolution isn't over and humans are still dumb chimps compared to the space bbys, but my god.
Right! I honestly have no gripe with any of that stuff. I think it's wonderfully shot and I find it conceptually compelling. It's definitely ambitious, maybe to a fault. You're right though, I find it pretty dull. Every time I try it loses my attention and then I can't get back into it. But I really think if I was in the right mood, like a really attentive mood, it might click?
The only time I genuinely enjoyed Space Odyssey is when I watched it high and on a hit and a half of acid. And even them I had to take breaks in the middle of it just to clear my head.
Haha I was honestly thinking about how that would be the way to do it. It seems like the kind of movie that would really engage me on acid. One time I watched Birdman on like half a hit, and I liked the movie beforehand, but after that experience I thought it was the best movie of all time for like a week.
