There's no good way to have this conversation with it seeming like I'm minimising your experience.
imo all the infrastructure, liberalism and cultural space to enjoy sexual freedoms that we have are built on the blood of colonised peoples. The imperialists have stated they will use anything as a trojan horse to continue their control, without morality. I don't think we can blame these peoples for being suspicious of "decadent western values" after fully considering the history.
I'm pretty maximalist pro trans. The persepective of the 80% of the global population outside the imperial core also cannot be ignored, given the bloody, exploitative history. The question is how to reconcile the two.
Not a debatebro post - posted because I made basically exactly the same post in reply to someone else a couple of hours ago.
I think the exploitation and enslavement of colonized people is a separate issue to an extend. At the same time, the decadent western values things was used as a propaganda point and fully embraced.
I do believe that this was due to these countries mostly skipping the industrialization and liberalisation that countries in the West experienced, but still doesnt change the fact that the Soviets have a pretty shitty track records here, whereas bourgeoise countries do not. This is in no way ignoring and minimizing the exploitation. You can say that the bougie countries did something good, and that does not invalidate the bad. In fact we want to learn from the good and make sure we dont repeat the bad.
There's no good way to have this conversation with it seeming like I'm minimising your experience.
imo all the infrastructure, liberalism and cultural space to enjoy sexual freedoms that we have are built on the blood of colonised peoples. The imperialists have stated they will use anything as a trojan horse to continue their control, without morality. I don't think we can blame these peoples for being suspicious of "decadent western values" after fully considering the history.
I'm pretty maximalist pro trans. The persepective of the 80% of the global population outside the imperial core also cannot be ignored, given the bloody, exploitative history. The question is how to reconcile the two.
Not a debatebro post - posted because I made basically exactly the same post in reply to someone else a couple of hours ago.
I think the exploitation and enslavement of colonized people is a separate issue to an extend. At the same time, the decadent western values things was used as a propaganda point and fully embraced. I do believe that this was due to these countries mostly skipping the industrialization and liberalisation that countries in the West experienced, but still doesnt change the fact that the Soviets have a pretty shitty track records here, whereas bourgeoise countries do not. This is in no way ignoring and minimizing the exploitation. You can say that the bougie countries did something good, and that does not invalidate the bad. In fact we want to learn from the good and make sure we dont repeat the bad.