• invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The source on this shit is always some West German Nazi that was given a position in government by the Americans.

    • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I went digging for this and all I could find was a it came from a British POW that told the story for Anthony Beevor's book Berlin: The Downfall 1945, published in 2002.

      Funnily enough the edition I found had no mention of the 22 hours and instead stated it was 16. I have no clue where "22 hours" comes from other than where it's stated as such on the website of the (President) Hoover Institution. Please go look at this ghoulish website for a what's what of evil shit. Also, imagine having someone lecture you on economics and they work for the HOOVER Institution lmao

      I know Beevor was heavily criticised by Russian historians for repeating "Asiatic horde" myths about the Soviets in looking into this as well.

      • Tiocfaidhcaisarla [he/him, comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        See, it's definitely fake, I mean what, this brit was around for this? No. Maybe, if he's being "honest," at best heard it at his camp or something. Otherwise, you have a room full of Soviet soldiers and a now dead SS soldier. Not exactly a crowd that's getting this story out to the English speaking world.

        So, it's a lie.

        Funny Beevor and the Hoover institute shared it, in a "of course they did" way. It's amazing how many of these anecdotal stories exist about communists, with no legs to stand on after brief critical engagement. The atrocities of the nazis are known, there's their own records and testimony. The brutality of the Japanese invasion of China, perhaps less records, but plenty of first hand experience. The horrors of colonialism by the west? Same.

        You don't see those stories in these memes. Just those scawy weds. It's kind of awesome that even though many socialist states are gone, they still terrify the West. The word Bolshevik, which would mean nothing outside Russia before the revolution, now decades after the collapse still inspires fear. Really shows the power and potency of Marxism, and encouraging that it's enemies fear us so, while fascists are rehabilitated. Pretty clear who's the real threat to hellworld. Naturally their propaganda makes it hard for us, but they wouldn't waste their time on it if they weren't concerned, and the Left throughout history has demonstrated the one thing they can't abide: there is an alternative- another, better world IS possible.

        That's a long way to say "burn in hell imaginary doge meme SS guy"

      • ChairmanAtreides [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        a customer at my job was talking to me about economics and mentioned he was watching lectures hosted by the hoover institution lol