• doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    I'm reminded of an old Zero Punctuation episode where Yahtzee said Nazis were the perfect video game enemy since you don't feel any sympathy for them at all and killing them is like eating Skittles

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Nazi zombies even more so. Like regular zombies I still feel bad because I'm like aww...that was someone's mom or brother. But with Nazi zombies I'm just like "HAHA I GET TO KILL YOU AGAIN! LUCKY ME!"

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The US dropped nuclear bombs on Japanese civilians to demonstrate their new weaponry to the USSR. No one was playing the piano though so it can't be used as an example of the evil nature of the US.

  • Firebreather2P [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    This was apparently fake, just like every other war crime allegation against the USSR

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Wow you're telling me they didn't just sit around watching some nazi play the piano for 22 hours straight as if they had nothing better to do?

      • Firebreather2P [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        It’s about as bullshit as any claimed Soviet war crimes. In fact, the Soviets should have treated Germany harsher than they actually did in real life.

    • AllCatsAreBeautiful [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Didn't Stalin have to put out an order early on telling at least a certain brigade to stop raping people? Or was that made up too?

        • AllCatsAreBeautiful [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          The book The Russians in Germany: a history of the Soviet Zone of occupation, 1945-1949" by Norman Naimark has a good deal of evidence in the chapter "Soviet Soldiers, German Women, and the Problem of Rape." There's no mention of Stalin's order though, and it mostly condemns smaller units. However, it does quote Stalin's response to accusations of mass rape in Silesia as being "In every family there is a black sheep," a Russian proverb. That's on page 71.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        The source on this shit is always some West German Nazi that was given a position in government by the Americans.

        • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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          4 years ago

          I went digging for this and all I could find was a it came from a British POW that told the story for Anthony Beevor's book Berlin: The Downfall 1945, published in 2002.

          Funnily enough the edition I found had no mention of the 22 hours and instead stated it was 16. I have no clue where "22 hours" comes from other than where it's stated as such on the website of the (President) Hoover Institution. Please go look at this ghoulish website for a what's what of evil shit. Also, imagine having someone lecture you on economics and they work for the HOOVER Institution lmao

          I know Beevor was heavily criticised by Russian historians for repeating "Asiatic horde" myths about the Soviets in looking into this as well.

          • Tiocfaidhcaisarla [he/him, comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            See, it's definitely fake, I mean what, this brit was around for this? No. Maybe, if he's being "honest," at best heard it at his camp or something. Otherwise, you have a room full of Soviet soldiers and a now dead SS soldier. Not exactly a crowd that's getting this story out to the English speaking world.

            So, it's a lie.

            Funny Beevor and the Hoover institute shared it, in a "of course they did" way. It's amazing how many of these anecdotal stories exist about communists, with no legs to stand on after brief critical engagement. The atrocities of the nazis are known, there's their own records and testimony. The brutality of the Japanese invasion of China, perhaps less records, but plenty of first hand experience. The horrors of colonialism by the west? Same.

            You don't see those stories in these memes. Just those scawy weds. It's kind of awesome that even though many socialist states are gone, they still terrify the West. The word Bolshevik, which would mean nothing outside Russia before the revolution, now decades after the collapse still inspires fear. Really shows the power and potency of Marxism, and encouraging that it's enemies fear us so, while fascists are rehabilitated. Pretty clear who's the real threat to hellworld. Naturally their propaganda makes it hard for us, but they wouldn't waste their time on it if they weren't concerned, and the Left throughout history has demonstrated the one thing they can't abide: there is an alternative- another, better world IS possible.

            That's a long way to say "burn in hell imaginary doge meme SS guy"

          • ChairmanAtreides [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            a customer at my job was talking to me about economics and mentioned he was watching lectures hosted by the hoover institution lol

    • RedArmor [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Fuck that. After what the fascists did to Europe and the Soviet Union, one scum playing the piano for 22 hours is a drop of water in an ocean.

        • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          I get you. The guy was a literal SS officer and most probably did 10 times worse to Eastern European civilians on his march there, so fuck him; But it's completely understandable to feel repulsed by how gruesome and cruel a man's execution was, regardless of how much he deserved it.

          • Firebreather2P [she/her]
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            4 years ago

            I mean it isn’t understandable. The person had no soul. No conscience. They deserved their fate.

            • Pezevenk [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Whenever I see someone incessantly posting stuff like that they usually get banned after a couple weeks because they show their ass somewhere else so I'm calling it now lol

        • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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          4 years ago

          It's incredible that you can show such a degree of concern for another human being, and I commend you for it.

    • BlueMagaChud [any]
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      4 years ago

      nah, fuck em, I'm glad those comrades allegedly got some entertainment out of that piece of shit and I hope he's still playing piano eternally in hell

    • Futterbinger [he/him, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      It's pretty messed up, they should have just shot him. Or at least just put him out if his misery like five minutes after he stared playing.

    • sam5673 [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      yeah it's needless and pointlessly cruel. there's a solid case for executing Nazis (although practical concerns around if you execute people who surrender everyone will fight to the death should be considered) but torture's just wrong

        • Firebreather2P [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          The Germans were en masse exterminating millions of people, committing unspeakable crimes against humanity, slaughtering defenseless people. And you deny the wronged revenge?

            • Firebreather2P [she/her]
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              4 years ago

              Well, how would you have treated the people responsible for slaughter of that level?

              • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
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                4 years ago

                I mean...I wasn’t there, so I can’t really speak to what I would do.
                But ideally they would be treated with compassion, like I think everyone should be.

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I like how this is presented as some unique cruelty by the Soviets, as though Nazis themselves didn't pull bullshit like that on people they invaded (there are accounts of them doing shit exactly like that -- and far worse -- in books like The Pianist).

    • cophatersupreme [she/her,any]
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      3 years ago

      on one hand, torture bad and this is literally whataboutism

      on the other he was SS i couldn't have less empathy for them

  • Piqued_Pirates [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I have no idea if this is true, but physical and psychological torture like this never sits well with me. I don't care who he was or what he did, doing horrible things to another human being out of pure enjoyment is never a good thing.

  • richietozier4 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    "ooh! ooh! Now play Lil Nas X's 'Montero'!"

    "please, I'm begging you, make it stop!"

    "keep complaining and I'll make it 'WAP'"