• PKMKII [none/use name]
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    8 months ago

    I really don’t get this instinct that one needs to stand by their ancestors, right or wrong. I’ve got more than one slave owner back on the family tree a few centuries back, and you know what? gui-better them all

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      8 months ago

      Remembering that clip of Anderson Cooper finding out one of his ancestors was killed by one of his slaves and dude asks “Think he deserved it?” and Anderson Cooper’s like “Yeah absolutely”

      • RNAi [he/him]
        hexagon
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        8 months ago

        Huh, pretty good for a CIA asset I guess

  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    But they were so nice and civil while supporting genocide and the largest armed conflict in world history!

  • oktherebuddy
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    8 months ago

    Judging from the pfp this person seems young (although this doesn't necessarily match the timeline if their grandparents were nazis; maybe they meant great grandparents, or their grandparents were part of a nazi youth org or something). One of the great demarcation lines between youth and adulthood is when you realize your parents & grandparents are just some people, and how they treat you (their family member & actual genetic offspring) exists in a domain separate to how they engage in public life. You can give them credit for treating you well as a kid, which is an important job, but as an adult you can look at them as a fellow adult and form an opinion of them as such.

    On the other hand I've met people in their late 20s who still haven't grasped that America's various post-WW2 military entanglements were horrifying, and the fact that their uncle or grandfather "served" in them should not cushion that judgement. Maybe this is part of the much-discussed millenial arrested development or maybe some people never make the connection that their dad is just some guy.

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      8 months ago

      Some people just never get there

      My paternal grandfather was great to me, was always funny and had things like candy and toys for my sister and I (he also died when I was relatively young)

      But he also served in Vietnam, went into intelligence/espionage for the US for a decade or so post war, was captured in Central America with 2 other Americans for things he never spoke about during that time (probably part of a kill team or something, he was an incredibly good marksman)

      It's always easier to disavow relatives and acquaintances when they're tremendous assholes to you or yours, rather then them just being tremendous assholes to peoples and countries you've never seen in service of the Amerikkkan empire

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      Judging from the pfp this person seems young (although this doesn't necessarily match the timeline if their grandparents were nazis; maybe they meant great grandparents, or their grandparents were part of a nazi youth org or something).

      Something about their tone screams "Reddit brained contrarian" to me. Could be youth, could just be an asshole.

    • oregoncom [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      This post is probably old enough to buy a beer in Germany.

    • ProfessorAdonisCnut [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      Bonus points for the ones who flagrantly exploited privileged positions they had because of Nazi family to disrupt Nazi crimes, like Heinz Heydrich and Albert Göring

  • Kuori [she/her]
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    8 months ago

    how do you resist the urge to kill someone like this