What do people here think of the Stalinist concept that social democracy is 'social fascism'?

  • RedDawn [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    WW2 wouldn’t have even happened if SocDems hadn’t armed fascists to kill communists beforehand, so your notion that WW2 somehow disproves this is ridiculous.

    • MarxMadness [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Any statement beginning with "WWII wouldn't have happened if" is highly speculative at best. The Treaty of Versailles was a ticking time bomb right from the start, and that wasn't a controversial opinion even at the time.

      But in any event, Stalin's claim is about who socdems will side with "when the chips are down," not who they'll opportunistically sell to in peacetime. And they sold to everyone, including the Soviet Union. You can say that socdems aren't reliably anti-fascist, but claiming that they're literally another wing of fascism is silly when a bunch of them went to war against fascists.

      • RedDawn [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        By “went to war against fascists” do you actually mean “fought back against a foreign country once it literally attacked them first”? That bar is so low it’s underground.

        I didn’t say they sold weapons to anybody. I said they literally armed fascists to kill communists rather than allow communists to take power in Germany. Yes, WW2 would not have happened if they hadn’t done that. Your thesis is trash tbh.

        • Vncredleader
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          3 years ago

          They murdered Rosa, they murdered the Ruhr Red Army, they murdered Levine and the Bavarian Council Republic by aligning with the military, they wiped out the Bremen Soviet Republic, they carried out Blutmai, put down the March Action, among a shitload of other things.

          I do really loath the "such and such war wouldn't have happened" thing, I especially try not to do it with WWI AND WWII, but if anything applies it is the literal creation of the Friekorps