It's easy to say that it feels like a psyop, but the levels of class reductionism - that is to say - the knee-jerk ridicule of intersectional shit or critical race theory stuff feels highly suspect. Like, you can't say white people are nerds (which they are) in a lot of anti-woke left spaces without harsh rebukes, and it seems really suspect to me. Is there a real fash pipeline in our midst? Are class reductionist white people that sensitive and defensive and... well... white to the point that they can't let go of their privilege even in the context of them being left?

  • purr [undecided]
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    4 years ago

    yes

    also most ideologies/movements/philosophies that encourage people to be overly mean and harsh as a form of liberated and politically sharpened communication are gonna lead to people being assholes (and its gonna lead to crypto shit when those ideologies/movements/philosophies attract privileged people whose "politically sharpened commentary" requires them to punch down)

    like im not arguing for civility politics but any grown person doing the whole lets trigger the NPC/"facts dont care about your feelings" thing is just sus as person and probably has some communication issues. Like im very marginalized and have had to let privileged people know about themselves but other than that, i care about people's feelings lol and generally dont go into a convo to talk over everyone/ impress people with my ruthless unnuanced and mean language. (This isnt even considering that i might actually be unsafe or criminalized into being a safety risk to the fragile whites if i, a black woman decided to tell the white boys as it is)

    a lot of dirtbags just want to be able to curse and their "dirtbagness" seems to be very much in conversation with their usual white upper middle class WASP/ reform white washed jew coastal 80s-90s helicopter parent hand wringing upbringing rather than actually being a radical thing thats based on actual politics

    to those white boys i say: i (and all marginalized groups) am not your mama and please go to therapy

    but also my answer to all of this is whiteness. when you steep yourself in whiteness (including only reading white theory) then you get white supremacist ass solutions. this is a society where all white children (regardless of political affiliation) go through an adolescent phase of hating black people and being extremely racist towards black people (it seems damn near impossible to find a white male who has never done edgy n word chat roulette shit) so these are the results

      • purr [undecided]
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        4 years ago

        i havent been proven otherwise to be honest and at this point dont believe it is possible also like american society is racist not just white society and everyone including marginalized groups who the racism is directed at go through a phase of hating black people or themselves...otherwise why do we keep dying every week....like...it has to make sense...regardless of how people were raised society permeates...otherwise a whole lot of people would be alive right now

        like i dont think its exactly natural for kids of color to go through skin bleaching phases.....some of them have great role models/ mirrors and yet turn to sad shit like that....as malcolm x says who taught you how to hate yourself

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      this is a society where all white children (regardless of political affiliation) go through an adolescent phase of hating black people

      This is so very painfully accurate, saying this as someone on the "inside".