It's easy to say that it feels like a psyop, but the levels of class reductionism - that is to say - the knee-jerk ridicule of intersectional shit or critical race theory stuff feels highly suspect. Like, you can't say white people are nerds (which they are) in a lot of anti-woke left spaces without harsh rebukes, and it seems really suspect to me. Is there a real fash pipeline in our midst? Are class reductionist white people that sensitive and defensive and... well... white to the point that they can't let go of their privilege even in the context of them being left?

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Who the fuck says that you can't say white people are nerds? I thought that was part of the whole dirtbag schtick is the self-deprecation.

    That being said, look at the kind of language and thoughts that is being kicked around on this thread. Have you ever heard any of this kind of this style of talk irl outside of liberal universities or upper management (which are mostly dominated by white people)? I certainly haven't on any shop floor I've ever been on.

    What is all of this? Culture war stuff. Different forms of white culture fighting with each other. Greivances with difficult connections to organizing labor to a point where we can make systemic changes. I think some good stuff has been said here about concepts such as white fragility, etc, but rejecting 'dirtbag' as an aesthetic because some crypto fash losers use it is basically saying stop using English because Reagan used it. You use the language you can to organize what you can to achieve the best outcome. Quite a few people respond well to leftist 'dirtbagism'. Are all of them good? No. But you separate the wheat from the chaff and move on.

    That being said, it is incredibly effective online because this is a hate box and no real organizing occurs here. That's where it really belongs. Purely online. If you get people doing unironic dirtbagism irl in your group, definitely don't let them into leadership roles. Keep them on the entertainment or outreach sections.